Popular Post Bronzed A Donis Posted September 2 Popular Post Posted September 2 Best Interests of the Club? Players who are committed? ย Real pro, you hypocritical twat 15 Quote
norwichblue Posted September 2 Posted September 2 (edited) 57 minutes ago, philipl said: As Glen has posted, the situation at Rovers is far worse and far more perilous than even the "negative" posters are saying. I am more worried and scared for our club now since John Williams left. Are you able to elaborate? If not, how come? Or perhaps I misunderstood your post? To me it suggests that you and Glen have information that hasnโt been disclosed (yet?). Edited September 2 by norwichblue Quote
norwichblue Posted September 2 Posted September 2 (edited) Canโt help but feel like weโre just shooting the messenger by pointing the blame at RG. Sure heโs inexperienced, and rumours suggest that he isnโt the nicest guy, but if/when he gets axed then weโre still in the same scenario we have been since those bozos took over. Edit: if you disagree, please tell me why you think Iโm wrong ๐๐ป Edited September 2 by norwichblue 2 Quote
Bronzed A Donis Posted September 2 Posted September 2 I'm not going to condemn him for at least engaging , feels very much like Suhail has tapped him in the shoulder and told him time to do your job human shield. It is the climate created that has led to our manager (twice) and then a load of players wanting out after each Jan. The climate of no ambition, that's he's happy to feed into as he plays horse trading , like a Benin Del Boy trying to charge a mark up on some dodgy Belgian left backs he picked up on the cheap, genuine top flight experience, cushty darlin'* ย *6 sub appearances in Luxembourgย 3 Quote
Ossydave Posted September 2 Posted September 2 Not sure that's actually him replying is it.... 1 Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted September 2 Posted September 2 It was always going to be the obvious responseย we offered them contracts and increases they didnโt want to extend and wanted to move on this is why small statements from players would be helpful because now we find ourselves in a โhe said she saidโ debate with no tangible evidenceย so fans in the dark again as usualย 1 Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted September 2 Posted September 2 12 minutes ago, Bronzed A Donis said: Best Interests of the Club? Players who are committed? ย Real pro, you hypocritical twat The gloves though... Quote
JamieUK Posted September 2 Posted September 2 3 hours ago, Polky said: Iโm surprised Batty didnโt get another loan move. ย Did pretty well at Accy last season and was expecting him to get another L2 move minimum. I'd suggest the reason is they're still advertising this:ย https://jobs4football.com/job/loan-manager/ Tin pot โ nobody in the role to push for moves, so weโre left with youngsters who are either too good or too old for the U21s and in need of menโs football experience, but theyโll be sat on the sidelines for the next four months. ย 1 Quote
Bronzed A Donis Posted September 2 Posted September 2 12 minutes ago, norwichblue said: Canโt help but feel like weโre just shooting the messenger by pointing the blame at RG. Sure heโs inexperienced, and rumours suggest that he isnโt the nicest guy, but if/when he gets axed then weโre still in the same scenario we have been since those bozos took over. Edit: if you disagree, please tell me why you think Iโm wrong ๐๐ป You're not. But he still needs shooting (metaphorically) Wouldn't let any of the strikers he's signed do it though. 1 Quote
Tricky Posted September 2 Posted September 2 9 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: we offered them contracts and increases they didnโt want to extend and wanted to move on seems entirely plausible tbf Quote
Emerald Isle Rover Posted September 2 Posted September 2 4 minutes ago, Tricky said: seems entirely plausible tbf Not disagreeing my point is we have a lot of talk that they werenโt offered any increases at allย so for fans and clarity we donโt really know do we as fans believe the information for instance Glen is privy to or do we believe the club who have previous for telling fibsย Quote
aletheia Posted September 2 Posted September 2 It is reasonable to point out (as we all know) that all financial constraints lead to Pune so RG/Pasha/VI (and those on here) are always going to say they are just carrying out orders โto cut expenditure.ย But surely the unholy triumverate have taken a more drastic decision to cut even further with no attempt to sell a different dream to the owners โone that could see the owners saving some face and exiting (ie promotion). It seems to me that a radical, arbitrary decision (do the owners know?) has been taken to keep wages under 10k and all the other stuff we know in the hope of what? Definitely, not promotion. League position is immaterial we have been told. Then what? One can only conclude itโs with the aim of treading water, maintaining Pashaโs control, massaging RGโs monstrous ego, maintaining agent fees and the whole merry go round of player trading. It would seem that promotion is not in Pashaโs/RGโs interest โI guess if it would lead to new owners then they know the party is over for them. Easier to keep their masters back in Pune in the dark and keep the gravy train flowing. I donโt know where relegation would fit into their thinking. Not a problem the same circus can continue?ย And then there is the court case. Do they know that things might be coming to a head so better make as much cash as they can while the party is still going? ย Quote
miqaayil Posted September 2 Posted September 2 7 minutes ago, aletheia said: It is reasonable to point out (as we all know) that all financial constraints lead to Pune so RG/Pasha/VI (and those on here) are always going to say they are just carrying out orders โto cut expenditure.ย But surely the unholy triumverate have taken a more drastic decision to cut even further with no attempt to sell a different dream to the owners โone that could see the owners saving some face and exiting (ie promotion). It seems to me that a radical, arbitrary decision (do the owners know?) has been taken to keep wages under 10k and all the other stuff we know in the hope of what? Definitely, not promotion. League position is immaterial we have been told. Then what? One can only conclude itโs with the aim of treading water, maintaining Pashaโs control, massaging RGโs monstrous ego, maintaining agent fees and the whole merry go round of player trading. It would seem that promotion is not in Pashaโs/RGโs interest โI guess if it would lead to new owners then they know the party is over for them. Easier to keep their masters back in Pune in the dark and keep the gravy train flowing. I donโt know where relegation would fit into their thinking. Not a problem the same circus can continue?ย And then there is the court case. Do they know that things might be coming to a head so better make as much cash as they can while the party is still going? ย As i said many times ....the owners are not in PUNE .....titleholder doesn't mean owners ...this is Mr Pasha's project ..previously he's behind the scenes and as pressure got more...he's been told to take a visible role...... the only way i could make sense of this bollywood drama running 15 yearsย Quote
Wendal Posted September 2 Posted September 2 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Bronzed A Donis said: I'm not going to condemn him for at least engaging , feels very much like Suhail has tapped him in the shoulder and told him time to do your job human shield. It is the climate created that has led to our manager (twice) and then a load of players wanting out after each Jan. The climate of no ambition, that's he's happy to feed into as he plays horse trading , like a Benin Del Boy trying to charge a mark up on some dodgy Belgian left backs he picked up on the cheap, genuine top flight experience, cushty darlin'* ย *6 sub appearances in Luxembourgย Exactly this. Itโs the same script every year. Wheel the selected puppet out to deflect all the anger and abuse for Pasha/Venkys agenda and once theyโve served their purpose get new puppets in with false talk of a new project. Same cycle, rinse and repeat. Hunt/Anderson, Senior, Shaw, Waggott and Broughton have all played this role before. Gestede is the puppet for this cycle. Once heโs served his purposes it will probably be Owen who they wheel out for the next cycle or get a whole new set of puppets in. We fall for it everytime and meanwhile Pasha continues to execute the Venkys agenda relatively unscathedย Edited September 2 by Wendal 5 Quote
BRFC. Posted September 2 Posted September 2 47 minutes ago, norwichblue said: Canโt help but feel like weโre just shooting the messenger by pointing the blame at RG. Sure heโs inexperienced, and rumours suggest that he isnโt the nicest guy, but if/when he gets axed then weโre still in the same scenario we have been since those bozos took over. Edit: if you disagree, please tell me why you think Iโm wrong ๐๐ป Youโve answered it yourself, โheโs not the nicest guyโ absolutely Suhail and pasha are the problems but this fella is so far out his depthย 1 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted September 2 Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Gav Mac said: So What a plonker. ย 3 Quote
M_B Posted September 2 Posted September 2 30 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: Not disagreeing my point is we have a lot of talk that they werenโt offered any increases at allย so for fans and clarity we donโt really know do we as fans believe the information for instance Glen is privy to or do we believe the club who have previous for telling fibsย I think there needs to be a distinction made between not believing what the club says, and not liking what they say.ย Some of the rumours people believe because it suits their purpose are mad.ย 2 Quote
wilsdenrover Posted September 2 Posted September 2 2 minutes ago, M_B said: I think there needs to be a distinction made between not believing what the club says, and not liking what they say.ย Some of the rumours people believe because it suits their purpose are mad.ย I think itโs easy for the influence of confirmation bias to trump everything else. Being able to step back and consider everything on its merits is important but not always easy to do. This only becomes more difficult when the subject is as emotive as the club we all support and want the best for.ย ย 2 2 Quote
DutchRover Posted September 2 Posted September 2 (edited) Why is Gestede wasting his time responding to individual LinkedIn messages and not doing his job or fronting up to actual media/fan scrutiny? It smacks of pettiness and weakness, picking and choosing which catered question to respond to without any risk of repercussion or pressure. Edited September 2 by DutchRover 7 Quote
GHD Posted September 2 Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Wegerleswiggle said: Had a go myself Shows how thick he is! How can there be wrong facts? Facts by definition cannot be wrong 3 Quote
Scotty1991 Posted September 2 Posted September 2 1 hour ago, norwichblue said: Canโt help but feel like weโre just shooting the messenger by pointing the blame at RG. Sure heโs inexperienced, and rumours suggest that he isnโt the nicest guy, but if/when he gets axed then weโre still in the same scenario we have been since those bozos took over. Edit: if you disagree, please tell me why you think Iโm wrong ๐๐ป Mate have a day off. You donโt sell your stalwart centre half at 7pm with nobody to replace him! Weโve 1 fit senior centre half heโs an absolute fucking idiot! 1 Quote
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted September 2 Moderation Lead Posted September 2 Iโm yet to see anyone sound, sign an email off with โbestโ.ย Always the arrogant goons in my experience. Rudy Gestede proving my point nicely. 4 Quote
BRFC. Posted September 2 Posted September 2 Donโt care if Rudy is โcommunicatingโ and โbeing honestโ the facts are key players are walking away and the Hyam one on deadline day is a farce. My opinion will not change on him and I hope fans donโt start trusting him again over an interview which heโll lie in as per (saying this will be an exciting summer)ย Quote
philipl Posted September 2 Posted September 2 On the Rudy replies. key phrase- WITHIN THE CLUB WAGE STRUCTURE. The Pasha wage structure is such that ANY decent player at Rovers can double their wages at 50%+ of clubs in the Championship and not be the top wage earner where they transfer to. Rudy's first language is not English so he either has a damned good ghost writer or he is far more articulate in written English than 90% of native English speaking footballers 6 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted September 2 Backroom Posted September 2 Not sure how professional it is to tell strangers on LinkedIn that players wanted to leave, and got offered contracts but went for more money elsewhere.ย 6 Quote
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