2025 Summer Transfer Thread. 😂

[Forever Blue]

4 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

So is Baradji actually injured right now?

Or is it a case that the medical has picked up something that could/will cause a problem at some point in the future?

Stress fracture of the foot apparently 

[Exiled_Rover]

51 minutes ago, AspRover said:

I think the reason Cantwell struggled there last season is that playing too far forward he get's isolated and bullied - too slow to escape his markers and weak enough that they can just push him off the ball.

He's got technique, passing, shooting etc. but the other team knows it and he gets marked out of the game. I don't think he can play in our current setup and be as effective as he should be at 10.

I genuinely think we should shift the formation a bit so that he can play deeper and be protected by Travis and Tronstad - go from ie.

 

Travis    Tronstad

Winger   Cantwell   Winger

Forward

 to

Tronstad

Travis   Cantwell

Winger                          Winger

Forward

 

See if we cant get a Tugay/Savage type partnership going. I think he'll be a lot more effective with someone acting as his enforcer. He can still make runs from deep if the space opens up. Risks isolating Yuki, of course, which will depend a lot on who our wide players end up being. Not to mention whether we still have Travis and/or Tronstad.

Cantwell suffered because he had nobody to pass to (Dolan and Hedges have no pace) and he ended up getting frustrated and coming deeper and deeper for the ball, taking him out of the play.

Later-day-Dack used to do that too and it completely neutered him. 

[philipl]

On the way we have played in the two friendlies, I am happy to assume Ismael knows what he is doing and has a season plan. Extraordinary to have 7 unavailable at this stage in the pre-season but there we are. 

Obviously playing hard ball with Boro and Derby over Brittain and we might have had a lucky break with Baradji (no not funny..)

It is inconceivable we won't pick up at least a couple of loan players in the last day of the window so with the youngsters coming through the competition for places is going to be pretty intensive. We will need some long Cup runs to keep everyone happy.

 

 

[Exiled_Rover]

The Josh Windass deal shows you how Dolan is really thought of in the Championship.

Walked out of his contract with Sheffield Weds midweek - already signed up for Wrexham (pending a medical) with Norwich and Coventry trying to hijack the deal. 

[philipl]

2 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The Josh Windass deal shows you how Dolan is really thought of in the Championship.

Walked out of his contract with Sheffield Weds midweek - already signed up for Wrexham (pending a medical) with Norwich and Coventry trying to hijack the deal. 

Or how inflated his agent is... 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Whether it’s Dolan or his agent it’s much of a muchness as ultimately Dolan has control he can say to his agent ‘no this is what I want I’m happy with this’ 

[islander200]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The Josh Windass deal shows you how Dolan is really thought of in the Championship.

Walked out of his contract with Sheffield Weds midweek - already signed up for Wrexham (pending a medical) with Norwich and Coventry trying to hijack the deal. 

They can take Windass without having to come to an agreement over a transfer fee or factoring in what it would cost them at tribunal.

Dolan will 100% have interest and no doubt taking his time considering them it's a big move in his career.

[roversfan99]

Not the same situation.

Dolan will require a fee to be paid so theres that additional issue.

Plus it might be that Dolan is weighing up offers.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Can’t get on board with that one lads sorry (my opinion) teams are away or heading away to pre season camps having already had 2/3 weeks under their belts. He’s already behind in that regards 

for me he’s been badly advised and has took that on board - the Turkish club chairman statement spoke volumes 

nothing wrong with confidence in your ability but sometimes it can be misplaced 

[roversfan99]

But what decision has he made that suggested misplaced confidence that has led him in a wrong direction?

All he has done is rejected a contract offer here so far. I suspect a really low one hence the pattern of us being unable to tie players down.

For the sake of a couple of weeks pre season ahead of a long term contract, surely it makes sense to ask for higher wages then those demands can slowly drop. Rather than just accepting a low offer really quickly to get it done.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

4 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But what decision has he made that suggested misplaced confidence that has led him in a wrong direction?

All he has done is rejected a contract offer here so far. I suspect a really low one hence the pattern of us being unable to tie players down.

For the sake of a couple of weeks pre season ahead of a long term contract, surely it makes sense to ask for higher wages then those demands can slowly drop. Rather than just accepting a low offer really quickly to get it done.

Not considering us in 2023 I think that was the mistake 

And reading reports there’s other champ teams interested but nothing has come of them so again I’m assuming he’s holding out for bigger 

could well happen but your saying what’s a couple of weeks….its quite a lot considering season is 1 month away and the fact he isn’t transferring from a club already training and he’s doing his own he’s going to be behind

 

[BankEnd Rover]

41 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

The Josh Windass deal shows you how Dolan is really thought of in the Championship.

Walked out of his contract with Sheffield Weds midweek - already signed up for Wrexham (pending a medical) with Norwich and Coventry trying to hijack the deal. 

Teams would rather have a Josh Windass than a Tyrhys Dolan any day of the week. No matter what way you dress it up, Dolan will never progress better than the championship. That does not mean he shouldn't looking for the best offer he can get, which will never be Blackburn Rovers btw.

[CambridgeRover]

I have to assume that Dolan is pricing himself out of a move. There is no way that clubs aren't interested in him 7 goals 6 assists at a good age on a free.
 

[roversfan99]

9 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Not considering us in 2023 I think that was the mistake 

And reading reports there’s other champ teams interested but nothing has come of them so again I’m assuming he’s holding out for bigger 

could well happen but your saying what’s a couple of weeks….its quite a lot considering season is 1 month away and the fact he isn’t transferring from a club already training and he’s doing his own he’s going to be behind

 

Can you imagine what our offer was like in 2023? 

He is going to be behind but hes probably going to sign a 3 or 4 year deal so in the grand scheme of things its not a terminal blow.

[ObiWhan8t7]

2 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

I have to assume that Dolan is pricing himself out of a move. There is no way that clubs aren't interested in him 7 goals 6 assists at a good age on a free.
 

Doesn’t need to rush in to things. He Thinks he’s a lower premier league player. Can see him waiting out until transfer window’s closed. In the hope that one comes calling after not getting top targets 

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Teams would rather have a Josh Windass than a Tyrhys Dolan any day of the week. No matter what way you dress it up, Dolan will never progress better than the championship. That does not mean he shouldn't looking for the best offer he can get, which will never be Blackburn Rovers btw.

Windass also wont progress beyond Championship level. Agree with the last bit though.

5 minutes ago, CambridgeRover said:

I have to assume that Dolan is pricing himself out of a move. There is no way that clubs aren't interested in him 7 goals 6 assists at a good age on a free.
 

Maybe hes weighing up his options. Even if he is pricing himself out of a move at the moment, those demands will drop but will not need to drop to the levels that we would have been offering to get a decent move at a level on par with us.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

Can you imagine what our offer was like in 2023? 

He is going to be behind but hes probably going to sign a 3 or 4 year deal so in the grand scheme of things it’s not a terminal blow.

Well for all his failings Gregg was key at contract negotiations and the fact Dolan/rep failed to engage to me at the time spoke volumes 

good luck to the fella but I still maintain he’s just a solid champ level player 

[Ricceh]

I have a feeling Dolan is going to end up in the MLS.

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Well for all his failings Gregg was key at contract negotiations and the fact Dolan/rep failed to engage to me at the time spoke volumes 

good luck to the fella but I still maintain he’s just a solid champ level player 

He was proactive in contract negotiations but he wasnt in control of the money.

He is a solid Championship player, and I suspect will earn a wage corresponding to that level going forward, either in the Championship or abroad. He wouldnt have been here.

[chaddyrovers]

22 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

But what decision has he made that suggested misplaced confidence that has led him in a wrong direction?

All he has done is rejected a contract offer here so far. I suspect a really low one hence the pattern of us being unable to tie players down.

For the sake of a couple of weeks pre season ahead of a long term contract, surely it makes sense to ask for higher wages then those demands can slowly drop. Rather than just accepting a low offer really quickly to get it done.

what long term contract offers from where or whom? 

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Maybe hes weighing up his options. Even if he is pricing himself out of a move at the moment, those demands will drop but will not need to drop to the levels that we would have been offering to get a decent move at a level on par with us.

what options or offers have Dolan got? He has been out of contract for the last 21 days and still no club signing and he has told Rovers he won't be signing a new contract here. 

Given that Championship clubs have been in pre season for 3/4 weeks and having/gone on pre season training camp yet Dolan doesn't appear to have any offers UK based. So what is the issue and why aren't Championship clubs looking to sign him? Also given he and his agent would have know for months he was leaving here so surely he had suitors then? 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

He was proactive in contract negotiations but he wasnt in control of the money.

He is a solid Championship player, and I suspect will earn a wage corresponding to that level going forward, either in the Championship or abroad. He wouldnt have been here.

The game is about money I’m speaking merely on his ability and the ability he/agent think of themselves 

he could get paid more at Derby but it would be a backwards move

time will tell like I said I had that gut feeling in 2023 and nothing has changed my mind since 

[islander200]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

what long term contract offers from where or whom? 

what options or offers have Dolan got? He has been out of contract for the last 21 days and still no club signing and he has told Rovers he won't be signing a new contract here. 

Given that Championship clubs have been in pre season for 3/4 weeks and having/gone on pre season training camp yet Dolan doesn't appear to have any offers UK based. So what is the issue and why aren't Championship clubs looking to sign him? Also given he and his agent would have know for months he was leaving here so surely he had suitors then? 

How do you know he doesnt have offers from Championship clubs?Just because he hasn't committed to anyone doesn't mean he hasnt had offers?

 

 

 

 

[BankEnd Rover]

12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Windass also wont progress beyond Championship level. Agree with the last bit though.

 

Windass won't because he's 31. Irrespective of the age, I would still want a Windass in my team than a Dolan.

[roversfan99]

10 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

The game is about money I’m speaking merely on his ability and the ability he/agent think of themselves 

he could get paid more at Derby but it would be a backwards move

time will tell like I said I had that gut feeling in 2023 and nothing has changed my mind since 

But again, what is there to suggest that him and his agent have such a high opinion of themselves?

Derby would be a sideways move on more reasonable money but I wonder if the links are just people putting 2 and 2 together.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Surely if they said 6 or 7 BEFORE Dolan, Weimann and Batth left, 5 more (ie 9) is not unreasonable.

To be fair, all I am asking for is another number 10. Otherwise we are in a position where if Cantwell get injured, Tyjon has to play every game and hes not used to senior football and has had injury problems. Whereas sign another and we can blood him in a more controlled manner.

fair enough. 

I think another 3 signings and without any first team squad leaving, if any do, they need replacing