Boycott Or Not?

[Dreams of 1995]

19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

I don't think you need a board of directors to run a football club but having senior management in place with experience in running a football club. 

So my structure would be CEO, Deputy CEO, then a CFO and club secretary then the rest would be head of commercial and marketing operations for example. Then a DoF reporting to owner, CEO and Deputy CEO on all matters

We are looking for new CEO as reported by Alan Nixon before Christmas, Will be interesting who is appointing to this role. 

I think Babu is financial guy within Venkys group and trust ally of the owners. 

If you don’t have a board, who monitors the performance of those people?

Take a look at all of the good football clubs - they have board of directors with experience in big business or football

On this occasion, what you would have is against the grain. You should have all of those positions you mention & a board of competent business people who mark the work. We don’t have that. We have Suhail - he is his own boss - the rest are not present or not interested

That we have not appointed a CEO yet is evidence of this. Waggott would have been required to give plenty of notice as you always are in those types of positions - this does not catch other clubs out. 6 months and no CEO is a result of an uninterested board of directors. 

Edited Saturday at 15:30 by Dreams of 1995

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, ... said:

You cry the same thing over n over.

Everyone can have an opinion. Some just matter more than others.

cry? call respect each other and whatever decision is made by that person. This is individual choice and should be name called like you just done. 

6 minutes ago, ... said:

6 minutes ago, ... said:

This reminds me of the regime and all the happy clappers 😆😆😆

 

very childish and non productive. 

[TugaysMarlboro]

1 hour ago, damo100 said:

Is Chaddy a club plant? It's quite unbelievable the amount of waffle he spouts.

I'm yet to see anyone agree with his delusional posts. 

Attention is currency and some people keep paying (me included at times).

Edited Saturday at 16:37 by TugaysMarlboro

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3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

cry? call respect each other and whatever decision is made by that person. This is individual choice and should be name called like you just done. 

very childish and non productive. 

My opinion.

Respect it.

Stop name calling. 

Edited Saturday at 15:39 by ...

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

If you don’t have a board, who monitors the performance of those people?

Owner 

6 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Take a look at all of the good football clubs - they have board of directors with experience in big business or football

 

6 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

On this occasion, what you would have is against the grain. You should have all of those positions you mention & a board of competent business people who mark the work. We don’t have that. We have Suhail - he is his own boss - the rest are not present or not interested. 

I agree on the positions but you don't need a board. You need an owner on the ground monitoring it all. 

If I was the owner, I would be running the club myself along with the CEO and Deputy CEO. 

6 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

That we have not appointed a CEO yet is evidence of this. Waggott would have been required to give plenty of notice as you always are in those types of positions - this does not catch other clubs out. 6 months and no CEO is a result of an uninterested board of directors. 

Was Waggott sack or did he resign? I don't know. I thought he was removed from his position by the owners. After it announce he was left, it was 5 months after when he finally left Rovers according to companies house

Yes a CEO should have been appoint before start of the season 

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, ... said:

My opinion.

Respect it.

Stop name calling. 

I haven't name called anyone

[Mattyblue]

Good job you don’t work in governance.

[Herbie6590]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

fully respect your opinions and suggestions.

The type of meetings where ideas are discuss and full engagement between key staff should happened. 

 

I’m not talking about meetings…running a company isn’t about meetings. 

I’m talking about effective corporate governance. Checks & balances in the way things are done. Without a proper organisational structure, with key departments headed by board directors who are willing and able to challenge each other openly & honestly, what you end up with is the sort of shambolic processes & outcomes we see at Ewood on a regular basis. 

Rovers is a dictatorship where Suhail’s will is carried out unchallenged. He isn’t even the CEO. It isn’t healthy, it isn’t best practice, but it explains a lot about why we have such a high turnover of staff & we see bizarre operational decisions being made.

 

 

[Dreams of 1995]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Owner 

 

I agree on the positions but you don't need a board. You need an owner on the ground monitoring it all. 

If I was the owner, I would be running the club myself along with the CEO and Deputy CEO. 

Was Waggott sack or did he resign? I don't know. I thought he was removed from his position by the owners. After it announce he was left, it was 5 months after when he finally left Rovers according to companies house

Yes a CEO should have been appoint before start of the season 

Ok fine. But on this occasion you are just wrong. This is not how it happens anywhere else.

You share this space with Venkys. I don’t know of any other football club that operates the way you want it to operate.

Plus, this all depends on the owner being interested. Ours aren’t.

I don’t really care whether he was sacked or resigned. He should been replaced immediately. 6 months without a CEO is negligence 

[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

I don't think you need a board of directors to run a football club but having senior management in place with experience in running a football club. 

So my structure would be CEO, Deputy CEO, then a CFO and club secretary then the rest would be head of commercial and marketing operations for example. Then a DoF reporting to owner, CEO and Deputy CEO on all matters

We are looking for new CEO as reported by Alan Nixon before Christmas, Will be interesting who is appointing to this role. 

I think Babu is financial guy within Venkys group and trust ally of the owners. 

You have been posting here that Nixon has said we have been actively looking for a CEO for months and months now.

You seem to still think its imminent and that any appointment if and when it does happen will be anything other than a token gesture.

[TugaysMarlboro]

31 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

You have been posting here that Nixon has said we have been actively looking for a CEO for months and months now.

You seem to still think its imminent and that any appointment if and when it does happen will be anything other than a token gesture.

Just to back this up.

 

The 22nd June was when the Sunderland Echo published an article that the ex-black cats CEO Martin Bain was 'close to being appointed' as the new Rovers CEO.

Although I'm glad he didn't get the position in the end. That just about sums up the urgency of it all.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Herbie6590 said:

I’m not talking about meetings…running a company isn’t about meetings. 

I’m talking about effective corporate governance. Checks & balances in the way things are done. Without a proper organisational structure, with key departments headed by board directors who are willing and able to challenge each other openly & honestly, what you end up with is the sort of shambolic processes & outcomes we see at Ewood on a regular basis. 

If I was the owner of a club, I wouldn't need a board of directors, I just need myself, CEO and deputy CEO to run the club and we could do all the checks and balances you talk about. We could challenge the departments heads with questions. 

On Rovers, we need a good CEO who the owner trust and will give some autonomy to make decisions if they aren't going to be on the ground.

1 hour ago, Herbie6590 said:

Rovers is a dictatorship where Suhail’s will is carried out unchallenged. He isn’t even the CEO. It isn’t healthy, it isn’t best practice, but it explains a lot about why we have such a high turnover of staff & we see bizarre operational decisions being made.

I know

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Ok fine. But on this occasion you are just wrong. This is not how it happens anywhere else.

You share this space with Venkys. I don’t know of any other football club that operates the way you want it to operate.

Plus, this all depends on the owner being interested. Ours aren’t.

I don’t really care whether he was sacked or resigned. He should been replaced immediately. 6 months without a CEO is negligence 

I said this is how I would run a football club. 

Blackpool has only 2 directors listed on Company house, The owner and the CEO. Bolton have 3 directors plus a CEO. 

 

[KentExile]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I said this is how I would run a football club. 

Blackpool has only 2 directors listed on Company house, The owner and the CEO. Bolton have 3 directors plus a CEO. 

 

Are we aiming for a similar corporate structure to a couple of league 1 clubs in preparation for something?

Edited Saturday at 18:02 by KentExile

[JHRover]

The last time they relegated us, back in 2017, they used the January window not to deliver significant improvements to a weak squad or to get rid of the failing manager and give the new guy chance to rectify the mess, instead they offered a token gesture of parachuting in Paul Senior on a consultancy deal.

You see this is how these owners and this regime operate. They know all too well that using the January window to address our issues (tick tock) requires solid cash commitment, as does firing a manager with a terrible record. So they'll do neither of those things, instead offering a few short term loans that other clubs don't want.

It wouldn't surprise me to see a Paul Senior part II arrive if results don't pick up and quickly. Not a serious, long term appointment but a short term emergency window-dressing appointment of someone good with the media and fans, who can do the routine of walking around the corridors of Ewood before games and listen to concerns/promise milk and honey at an undefined point in the future and calm people down. 

Sadly plenty will fall for this stunt as they did the last time around but really all it is designed to do is pass time without them addressing the main issues and keeping the culprits protected in the background.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

You have been posting here that Nixon has said we have been actively looking for a CEO for months and months now.

You seem to still think its imminent and that any appointment if and when it does happen will be anything other than a token gesture.

Well a number of untruths here, RF99 again! 

firstly, I said actually that whoever is appoint to the role with tell you what power they have and whether it is a token gesture or not. 

Secondly, Nixon posted during the summer that we were looking for CEO and the Job description appear online and the role was nothing more than GM role not a CEO role as I posted actually on here. He also said they were no takers for it. So now they are looking for one as reported a couple of weeks ago by him. 

[JHRover]

'No takers' for the job of CEO of Blackburn Rovers Football Club

If that doesn't tell you something I don't think anything will.

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Are we aiming for a similar corporate structure to a couple of league 1 clubs in preparation for something?

Just highlighting that some football clubs don't have a board of directors or small number of directors like Birmingham City of 4 people or Coventry City who have Executive Chairman, Chief Business Officer, Chief Operations Officer on their board of directors

the Coventry City board is similar to what I said i would employ if I was the owner of football club

[roversfan99]

Exactly. Just take everything exactly as it is without questioning it.

We dont need to wait and see on any appointment as to how much power they will have and how much change will be seen. The answer to both if it even happens is none.

Nixon is at least earning a bit of money from constant stories from a continious non story for the more gullible to pay for the privelidge of reading.

[Dreams of 1995]

9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I said this is how I would run a football club. 

Blackpool has only 2 directors listed on Company house, The owner and the CEO. Bolton have 3 directors plus a CEO. 

 

And how you would run a football club is at odds with the vast majority of successful and ambitious clubs. So long as you can accept that point then we are done here

This point has been twisted anyway. The volume of directors is secondary to the involvement and knowledge of those personnel. The Rovers board is neither involved, informed or interested - that is the important part. How chaddyrovers would run a football club is a distraction from that point 

[chaddyrovers]

4 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

And how you would run a football club is at odds with the vast majority of successful and ambitious clubs. So long as you can accept that point then we are done here

Coventry run it very similar to how would run it. 

 

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Exactly. Just take everything exactly as it is without questioning it.

We dont need to wait and see on any appointment as to how much power they will have and how much change will be seen. The answer to both if it even happens is none.

Nixon is at least earning a bit of money from constant stories from a continious non story for the more gullible to pay for the privelidge of reading.

question what? who am I questioning over the CEO appointment? 

Maybe saying you were wrong in posting what you did as it was untrue of what I actually said. 

You obsess about Nicko, you slagged him off but can't resist and comment on his stories, if you don't want to read them, why comment on them

[Dreams of 1995]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Coventry run it very similar to how would run it. 

 

I don’t really give a shite about how Coventry are run or how you would run a club. Your original post I quoted says you “don’t need a board of directors to run a football club”. Every club you have referenced has a board of directors who are involved, informed and interested. Doug King at Cov goes every week. Our owner hasn’t been for 15 years.

I won’t respond again because I honestly cannot express how little I care how Chaddyrovers will run a club. I care about Rovers - ours isn’t ran properly and that is very clear.

You removed the end of my last post so I’ll repeat it so it sinks in - 

This point has been twisted anyway. The volume of directors is secondary to the involvement and knowledge of those personnel. The Rovers board is neither involved, informed or interested - that is the important part. How chaddyrovers would run a football club is a distraction from that point 

Edited Saturday at 18:30 by Dreams of 1995

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

We are,in effect,a Ship without a Rudder.

"We've been drifting for a long,long,drifting for a long,long time"

 

Why is the support at Ewood so apathetic and silent?:

 

 

Edited Saturday at 18:48 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[Scotty1991]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

I don't think you need a board of directors to run a football club but having senior management in place with experience in running a football club. 

So my structure would be CEO, Deputy CEO, then a CFO and club secretary then the rest would be head of commercial and marketing operations for example. Then a DoF reporting to owner, CEO and Deputy CEO on all matters

We are looking for new CEO as reported by Alan Nixon before Christmas, Will be interesting who is appointing to this role. 

I think Babu is financial guy within Venkys group and trust ally of the owners. 

Deputy CEO 😂😂😂 fuck me that’s tickled me that!