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1 minute ago, speedies gonna get ya. said:

A great post and sums up the lived experience of many of us. I keep hearing an argument about this not being a cliff edge situation used to imply we shouldn't boycott. I really dont understand that logic, I would much rather be proactive and try stuff before we get to that stage. If it prevents it great, if it speeds it up then I can live with that too. What I cannot stomach is more of this long painful demise.

I agree. It’s the inertia, I can’t bear it any more, we just drift like a rudderless ship, where we will end up anyone knows? Is that in the best interests of the club, our club?

Of course not, but just blindly turning up because it’s what we do, meet friends/family, you can do that anywhere. Have an alternative Watford day, make it Elton themed, sing That’s Why They Call It The Blues, shout Wankers Out, wear your colours, just don’t bloody go.

Spread the word, please.

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Posted
12 hours ago, Hasta said:

If people choose not to boycott a single game with the Watford game, I doubt the same people would protest in the ground. For example turn their backs for 5 minutes, show red cards etc.. Any protest inside the ground will occur next to people who think it’s stupid / pointless and many people will naturally be less confrontational . Therefore an in ground protest as well on the 24th would be spun as “most people are happy”, as the majority who would take part won’t be in the ground.

The other point is @Dreams of 1995 says “I am of the opinion that all supporters have the same opinion - that the Venkys have been nothing short of a disaster for Blackburn Rovers.”, but we have to accept he is wrong. Not on the opinion, which I agree with, but there is a significant portion of attending adults who do not think they are doing that bad a job. For the abandoned games, a group around me were laughing at the Venkys out chants, saying Venkys cant control the weather whilst being unaware of the lack of investment in the pitch. Those people don’t read sites like this or social media. They won’t be aware of Brockhall, FF minutes, payday loans from some guy in Bolton, court cases in India etc..  They just think they put the money in and the managers fail.

Adults on the outside, toddlers on the inside.

Posted
10 hours ago, ... said:

Agree its hard to prove a point which is why I think being reflective is the better angle. What have we achieved in last 15 years. Look where we where compared to now. 

Look at the quality of players we were bringing in compared to now...etc

It's not hard to prove the point.

The problem is that these people are thick. They are in denial about reality and no time or effort should be wasted on them. 

It may seem harsh but I'm not sure how else to describe someone who can't see what's happening right in front of their face for 15 years. 

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Posted
7 hours ago, B16Rover said:

In 1922, Kafka wrote a novel entitled 'The Castle'.  How much of it is still relevant in the modern world?

The book follows K., a land surveyor who arrives in a village governed by an opaque and seemingly all-powerful bureaucratic authority centered in the Castle. Determined to justify his presence through reason and procedure, K. pursues permits, explanations, and official recognition, only to encounter contradictory rules, endless delays, and unclear chains of authority. Messages from the Castle are filtered through minor officials and messengers whose roles are ambiguous and whose statements often conflict, giving the impression of a meticulously ordered system that nonetheless resists logic. K.’s insistence on rational clarity exposes the gap between the bureaucracy’s formal appearance and its fundamentally irrational operation.

Crucially, the villagers themselves reinforce the system’s power by deeply respecting and rationalizing it. They accept bureaucratic confusion as a sign of higher wisdom, assuming that any apparent inconsistency must have a reason beyond their understanding. Rather than question the Castle’s authority, they internalize its rules and defend its officials, often viewing K.’s demands for clarity as naïve or disruptive. This collective belief sustains the illusion of bureaucratic order and allows the distant higher-ups to maintain their dominance without direct intervention. 

The Five Monkeys Experiment (which apparently never actually happened…).

Posted
7 hours ago, B16Rover said:

In 1922, Kafka wrote a novel entitled 'The Castle'.  How much of it is still relevant in the modern world?

The book follows K., a land surveyor who arrives in a village governed by an opaque and seemingly all-powerful bureaucratic authority centered in the Castle. Determined to justify his presence through reason and procedure, K. pursues permits, explanations, and official recognition, only to encounter contradictory rules, endless delays, and unclear chains of authority. Messages from the Castle are filtered through minor officials and messengers whose roles are ambiguous and whose statements often conflict, giving the impression of a meticulously ordered system that nonetheless resists logic. K.’s insistence on rational clarity exposes the gap between the bureaucracy’s formal appearance and its fundamentally irrational operation.

Crucially, the villagers themselves reinforce the system’s power by deeply respecting and rationalizing it. They accept bureaucratic confusion as a sign of higher wisdom, assuming that any apparent inconsistency must have a reason beyond their understanding. Rather than question the Castle’s authority, they internalize its rules and defend its officials, often viewing K.’s demands for clarity as naïve or disruptive. This collective belief sustains the illusion of bureaucratic order and allows the distant higher-ups to maintain their dominance without direct intervention. 

Significantly for us, it has no ending either!

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