Boycott Or Not?

[RoversTilliDie]

17 hours ago, ... said:

You would imagine they'd have to cater for all season ticket holders regardless of whether they attend, as the club have no way of knowing how many will turn up, they all might or none of them might.

Assume any additional tickets sale drive the need for more staff or not.

Good to see its a low expected turn out though.

I've been to every home game this season, I'm a season ticket holder, but I'm very tempted to join the boycott this Saturday. Its depressing what's happened to Blackburn Rovers this Season, a useless manager in the dugout, our team gone to rack and ruin, and owners who don't give a toss, about Blackburn Rovers.

Edited 5 hours ago by RoversTilliDie
Misspelled

[speedies gonna get ya.]

18 minutes ago, RoversTilliDie said:

I've been to every home game this season, I'm a season ticket holder, but I'm very tempted to join the boycott this Saturday. Its depressing what's happened to Blackburn Rovers this Season, a useless manager in the dugout, our team gone to rack and ruin, and owners who don't give a toss, about Blackburn Rovers.

Every person counts. If is a tough decision but if nothing else you will be able to look yourself in the mirror and know you tried. We have to start somewhere. You are not letting anyone down,the Owners and Pasha have let you down and taken your loyalty for granted. 

[Danny O.Brien]

I think me and my friends will end up going to the Darwen game this weekend instead. I live in between both so doesn't really bother me. My young lad is just getting into football and I got him a season ticket for rovers last year. It'd be a shame for him to miss out and for us to lose that Saturday afternoon together. If there is a viable alternative, like this Saturday at Darwen then I'll choose it. He's been to a charity game there before and it was far more entertaining than anything he has had to suffer at ewood this season.

Edited 5 hours ago by Danny O.Brien

[Hasta]

2 hours ago, RoversTilliDie said:

I've been to every home game this season, I'm a season ticket holder, but I'm very tempted to join the boycott this Saturday. Its depressing what's happened to Blackburn Rovers this Season, a useless manager in the dugout, our team gone to rack and ruin, and owners who don't give a toss, about Blackburn Rovers.

I'm a season ticket holden and I've been to every weekend home game and a couple of the midweek ones. If I was asked to miss the rest of the season it would be a no. If I was asked to not buy a season ticket next year that would be 50/50. I can easily pick and choose games as I miss a few anyway.

However missing one game on a miserable, drizzly Saturday against low-key opposition to try and make the point is an easy decision for myself. It's a single afternoon. There's another home game next weekend to catch up with my mates. Partaking in boycotting this one game doesn't mean that going forward you will be asked (or have to) miss further games. It's an isolated message. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Hasta

[Gav]

Aside from the moronic element on Twitter, I think the conversation has been mostly respectful. 

To anyone sitting on the fence, this decision has no right or wrong answer for me. Every fan has a valid reason to attend the game, that must always be the starting point here.

I recall under King Rat, I gave one poster pelters for not boycotting, the poster DMd me and explained he attended because he promised his grandad, recently deceased, he wouldn’t let them force him out.

I learnt a valuable lesson that day, he was right, I was an arsehole and wrong. 

VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

[Penwortham Blue]

1 hour ago, RoversTilliDie said:

I've been to every home game this season, I'm a season ticket holder, but I'm very tempted to join the boycott this Saturday. It’s depressing what's happened to Blackburn Rovers this Season, a useless manager in the dugout, our team gone to rack and ruin, and owners who don't give a toss, about Blackburn Rovers.

I really hope you do, what else can we do as we see something we love being dismantled, brick by brick. None of us like missing but we need to do this, if we fail, then at least we be satisfied that we at least tried to make our voice heard.

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20 minutes ago, Gav said:

Aside from the moronic element on Twitter, I think the conversation has been mostly respectful. 

To anyone sitting on the fence, this decision has no right or wrong answer for me. Every fan has a valid reason to attend the game, that must always be the starting point here.

I recall under King Rat, I gave one poster pelters for not boycotting, the poster DMd me and explained he attended because he promised his grandad, recently deceased, he wouldn’t let them force him out.

I learnt a valuable lesson that day, he was right, I was an arsehole and wrong. 

VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

Moronic element on YouTube too this guy on BBE podcast comments 🙈

[Paul Mellelieu]

[speedies gonna get ya.]

32 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

This makes me angry and is nothing more than emotional black mail. Rovers could bring them into work. They chose not to cos they are on zero hour contracts. No one wants to see individuals suffer, but Venkys have caused unemployment by getting rid of over half club staff in their tenure. By getting rid of them jobs would no doubt be created in ground and local community if crowds return. 

[wilsdenrover]

I wonder how the money saved on bar staff compares to one day of Gestede’s salary. 

[RevidgeBlue]

41 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Im a bit confused by these messages. Does that mean concessionary outlets will be closed altogether because they're worried about the possibility of a really low crowd?

Other than walk on sales I've still no idea how the Club can have any real clue in advance about how effective the boycott is going to be.

Surely from their point of view they SHOULD staff as normal in case the boycott call has little effect - and if it is a really low crowd, well then, c'est la vie.

That's what you'd imagine would happen at a normally run Club anyway.

[XLM]

55 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

That's not true though, or at least that screenshot isn't proof. It's the same one from 2 pages ago referring to a steward.

[Elrovers]

15 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Im a bit confused by these messages. Does that mean concessionary outlets will be closed altogether because they're worried about the possibility of a really low crowd?

Other than walk on sales I've still no idea how the Club can have any real clue in advance about how effective the boycott is going to be.

Surely from their point of view they SHOULD staff as normal in case the boycott call has little effect - and if it is a really low crowd, well then, c'est la vie.

That's what you'd imagine would happen at a normally run Club anyway.

This was received because he’s a steward. I’m not sure about other roles such as bar staff. 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, XLM said:

That's not true though, or at least that screenshot isn't proof. It's the same one from 2 pages ago referring to a steward.

It'd be good to know  the truth of it.

I can't see how the Club could arbitrarily partially reduce staff numbers across the stadium without knowing exactly how many are going to be missing and what parts of the stadium they're going to be missing from.

If they did take food and drink completely off the menu for this fixture, it gives the Coalition an angle that they're punishing the fans who ignored the boycott.

[StHelensRover]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It'd be good to know  the truth of it.

I can't see how the Club could arbitrarily partially reduce staff numbers across the stadium without knowing exactly how many are going to be missing and what parts of the stadium they're going to be missing from.

If they did take food and drink completely off the menu for this fixture, it gives the Coalition an angle that they're punishing the fans who ignored the boycott.

I don't think they're closing bars and kiosks I think they will just be on a skeleton staff.

If they did start closing stuff, Venkyclappers on social media would just blame boycotters, not the owners. "So negative, get behind the lads, we should be grateful they're putting the money in, boycotters will kill the club" etc etc etc 

[XLM]

5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

It'd be good to know  the truth of it.

I can't see how the Club could arbitrarily partially reduce staff numbers across the stadium without knowing exactly how many are going to be missing and what parts of the stadium they're going to be missing from.

If they did take food and drink completely off the menu for this fixture, it gives the Coalition an angle that they're punishing the fans who ignored the boycott.

I would imagine they will reduce the catering staff requirement if they're doing so for stewards regardless of that post on twitter being wrong. Stewards are there for safety, so the club has an obligation to staff for the reasonable maximum crowd.

Obviously it's not as important to have enough bar staff etc. And they already understaff the kiosks anyway, have you ever tried to buy a pint at HT?

We'll know soon enough anyway.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, Elrovers said:

This was received because he’s a steward. I’m not sure about other roles such as bar staff. 

Ah ok - thanks.

They must be anticipating a low crowd then - but I still can't see how they can rely on guesswork - unless your mate works in a section of the stadium where there's a higher proportion of walk ons because it's cheaper -say the Riverside- and those walk on tickets simply haven't been sold.

What if the boycott didnt take off and there was some kind of incident and they were understaffed? They'd be in all sorts of bother.

[roverandout]

3 hours ago, Gav said:

Aside from the moronic element on Twitter, I think the conversation has been mostly respectful. 

To anyone sitting on the fence, this decision has no right or wrong answer for me. Every fan has a valid reason to attend the game, that must always be the starting point here.

I recall under King Rat, I gave one poster pelters for not boycotting, the poster DMd me and explained he attended because he promised his grandad, recently deceased, he wouldn’t let them force him out.

I learnt a valuable lesson that day, he was right, I was an arsehole and wrong. 

VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

Are u boycotting gav?

[Elrovers]

12 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Ah ok - thanks.

They must be anticipating a low crowd then - but I still can't see how they can rely on guesswork - unless your mate works in a section of the stadium where there's a higher proportion of walk ons because it's cheaper -say the Riverside- and those walk on tickets simply haven't been sold.

What if the boycott didnt take off and there was some kind of incident and they were understaffed? They'd be in all sorts of bother.

With a steward, they get assigned to different areas of the stadium whether that be the away end, home end or in the turnstiles. They find that out on the day. 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Elrovers said:

With a steward, they get assigned to different areas of the stadium whether that be the away end, home end or in the turnstiles. They find that out on the day. 

Ah, interesting thanks.

To me then,  it seems they've no way of knowing whether your mate will actually be needed, they're guessing it might be a poor turn out and gambling that they can get away without him and a few others in an effort to save relative pennies in the general scheme of things.

[StHelensRover]

Because it's stadium as a whole, it might also be related to size of away followings. Watford won't bring too many, I'm sure stewarding and kiosk staff requirements shoot up when we give a team the whole Darwen End, versus a team from the South East who will bring a few hundred. 

[Gav]

35 minutes ago, roverandout said:

Are u boycotting gav?

Yes.

[RevidgeBlue]

8 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

Because it's stadium as a whole, it might also be related to size of away followings. Watford won't bring too many, I'm sure stewarding and kiosk staff requirements shoot up when we give a team the whole Darwen End, versus a team from the South East who will bring a few hundred. 

Yes, you might have solved it there.

[Paul Mellelieu]

I posted the image for info and can't vouch for its authenticity or accuracy.  

[Polky]