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  1. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    Car bomb in Northern Ireland, set off by the new ira. Difficult to believe its not linked to brexit in some way. Come out of the customs union and you have the choice between the return of the troubles or introducing differential customs arrangements within the UK which would ultimately lead to the break up of the union.
  2. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    I think John will get over that - he seems like a good lad.
  3. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    What would be the mechanism for taking no deal off the table? Would a motion be passed, a member's bill? I just don't i understand any more. Its all very confusing.
  4. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    I'm not sure, thinking about it, that no deal should be on the paper. Should a responsible government be giving the electorate that as an option? Did it ever have significant support in parliament?
  5. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    Just the two choices on the ref paper, no brexit, no deal?
  6. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    How do you see it panning out, Mark?
  7. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    Humiliation for the government. The may deal is surely now dead. Are the EU prepared to renegotiate? If so, what are they prepared to offer?
  8. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    Yes, just inside the utter carnage of Johnson got in. It would make the current car crash look like a supermarket ding compared to johnson doing his worst
  9. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    I think in that basis it's a cop out. Parliament can't make a decision, therefore we stick with the status quo. The first referendum was a cop-out because Cameron was trying to buy off ukip voters. Seems to me that the second referendum is also a cop out because no one has the balls to do the right thing and cancel this disastrous shit show. For as long as brexit is still possible, people like farage will carry on pushing the buttons of the disenfranchised
  10. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    I guess the difference between the first and second referenda would be that the first one was non-specific. Whatever the second one says that's what had to be enacted? Just seen this from the standard : Meanwhile, a passing Tom Brake, the Carshalton and Wallington MP and Liberal Democrat Brexit spokesman, told the Standard there was “no doubt” Mrs May’s deal will be voted down on Tuesday. “I hope that the Prime Minister, having seen her deal defeated and Parliament having ruled out no deal, that she is left with one alternative only. And that is to put the vote to the people in a ‘people’s vote’ and give them a choice between her deal and staying in the European Union.” ---- That didn't make any sense. Two options ruled out by parliament, but one of them is still included in referendum
  11. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    I'm struggling to understand what goes on in his head. He could have won the last election of he'd campaigned right. He seems to put more importance on being idealogical pure than on bloody getting into power. Plus he looks like his m I'm bought his suit for him and told him to wear it
  12. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    Can't see that you could legitimately put May's deal on the ballot of, as anticipated, parliament bins it out of sight. You can't then give it a an option to the people. I'm no expert on parliamentary law, b it out wouldn't make sense to me. What if May's deal won the second referendum, and then failed to get past parliament again? I think I'm right in saying (although this whole process had been so disastrous that I may be confused here) that parliament has to ratify whatever the referendum result is? You can't give the people options that parliament would throw out, surely? You can't bypass the executive, can you? Although I'm not even sure any more. The whole thing is such a mess
  13. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    What Brexit would people be voting for? May's deal is dead. I don't this will go to a second referendum. I think Parliament will kill this off. If it goes to another referendum, a negotiated deal can't be an option, because the EU won't renegotiate. So the only choices would be no brexit or no deal. No responsible government would hand that choice to the electorate.
  14. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    She's not crazy/thick enough to take UK out on a no-deal basis. I think/hope tomorrow will show that her deal is dead. And with it, I think Brexit will be dead.
  15. Perhaps you'd like to have a sit down and a nice cup of tea while matron sorts out the ladder in your tights
  16. Who remembers that awful fa cup semi with kean in charge? We were so hopeless
  17. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    Yeah, I just don't think labour understand. They're obsessed with being right-on. They just don't understand that they're a turn-off to middle class voters. Blair understood what it took to win power. From their position on the left now, with Jeremy scarecrow, they haven't a chance
  18. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    He's a nasty piece of work. He's also bone-bloody-idle, unprofessional, uncaring and unprincipled. Other than that, he's grand.
  19. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    False dichotomy. May's deal is dead. The real choice is no brexit or no deal
  20. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    No, what you're doing is avoiding any engagement with factual arguments because you haven't got a bloody clue what you're chatting about
  21. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    But apparently he's a remainer. Am I the only one who's thinking that someone is on a wind up
  22. broadsword

    "donald"

    Name me one achievement of trump from his time in office. One good thing that he's achieved. Forget whataboutery. If he's not all bad, and he's a media hate figure for no good reason, then you'll able to name me something
  23. broadsword

    Brexit Thread

    Expressing a point of view is anti - democratic now?
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