Signing a player has replaced the slow burn of getting a manager in. Seeing good options being snapped up while everyone debates about bullshit. It could be that we're waiting for the Brereton money before anything can be spent.

What's funny is that his plan A would have got them straight back up.

Bit naive that.

The other thing is that TM wouldn’t have bought a goalscorer with the money anyway.

With Nyambe it’s about ability too (and Lenihan has also had his best season), but I’d rather us pay better new signings more in wages than a trio of underachievers. Rothwell should have gone in January. What a waste of money that was. It is very poor that we’re letting all three go for nothing though.

Sod Lenihan, can we get Van Hecke back?

Will the rest of the Championship be fearing the beard next season?

Am I the only one who thinks Berget could do a job for us as an attacking midfielder?

Have we learnt nothing from January?

I’d prefer Glen over Derek and Agnew. Nothing outlandish about that. Only one of those had the best interests of the club at heart. He was working for nothing and was the only one putting a shift in.

If we put it to a serious vote I'd be happy to put Glen as a DOF. He did a far better unpaid job than any of the overpaid chancers we had at the time.

The one thing to counter this is that Pace and co are clearly a pack of dicks. Burnley fans can put their rose tinted specs on all they like, but that's a fact. They are getting by on other peoples money. They may do great next season but it'll catch up if Pace carries on the way he's started.

It's been no secret that Glen has been ITK for about 12 years. I've no reason to disbelieve him. He's been on TV with Shebby Singh and was the guy who told them to sign Rhodes. He has pretty much a direct line to the owners people in Pune. If anyone is ITK it's Glen so I don't know why he'd bother to make things up. I've seen the emails. We know that the club changes their direction like the wind (Warnock/Coyle) so I'm quite happy to believe that the club sounded out Farke and he was first choice. Farke also had a great job offer so it's likely we did want him but he preferred Bundesliga.

Cardiff were playing 3-4-3 and 5-4-1 that season, so those stats may not tell the full story. He was playing in the midfield four in the 3-4-3, covering the full back position when necessary - and in the 5-4-1 was playing as a wing back, moving forward when necessary. But in any case, TM's management didn't get the best out of him. Sticking him on the right was another baffling TM special. https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/position-mowbray-ryan-giles-wing-090000719.html Looks like he provided most assists from set pieces, which makes TM's decision even more baffling. Ps, those stats sites all had him down as a left wing back before he came here. I remember looking him up. Half a season with Mowbray and he's a left/right midfielder. https://www.whoscored.com/Players/362831/Show/Ryan-Giles

He's a left back/left wing back. I can only imagine that is his best position due to the amount of assists he had for cardiff - 9 assists in first half of the season for them. I think his total for us was 1 in 10. 7th top assists in the Championship.

Giles was always out of position. Plenty of assists last season, just not with TM managing him.

I was exactly the same, I couldn't understand it when some fans were happy. And then when Kean was appointed I remember some applauding the decision which I found bizarre. Allardyce drove me bonkers sometimes but there was no way he should have been sacked. There were some great times with him in charge, some lows too but nothing that would compare to the nightmare that followed.

Don't mention fecking agents.

Could have got a decent fee out of him there. Poor management.

Not sure where you got that from when all I had to go on was a vague reply, but fair enough I'll refrain from responding after this and I'd ask you to do the same.

That's on the video editor, not them. And it's forgiveable for the media team as they'll have had to turn that around so quickly. Bit of a schoolboy error though. If there is an entrenched culture then it's no wonder we've under achieved under Mowbray. Maybe JDT needs to bring in some lemon drizzle cake to smooth things over.

JPVH would be a dream come true but let's face it, he's going to be a future PL star that lad. Him and Diaz's goals are the two things they must replace next season if we have any ambition.

Because your reply seemed to suggest even without quality replacements we'll finish higher without Van Hecke, Lenihan and co. Even with decent recruitment I don't know if I'll expect a higher placed finish as it may take the whole thing to gel, but I won't expect a relegation fight. If we do a Venky special and bring in some journeymen and a couple of kids on loan, I fully expect a lower placed finish if not worse.

You expect to finish higher without quality additions? Van Hecke solid at the back - Diaz scored 22. Lenihan had his best season. We'll do better without them? I think you're expecting a lot if they aren't replaced.