Decent line up, but can't see a win, which we need. When was the last time we played well on Sky?

His record speaks for itself at this level. He had Ipswich playing well above their level. His last roll was an odd one, but they have had 15 managers in 3 seasons. I'm sure he got a very tidy payday. This feels like he needs to achieve something though.

Just saw Cardiff are appointing McCarthy. Decisive. What's the bet they finish ahead of us? That just seems like such a good fit.

Hard to see beyond a defeat. Hope I'm wrong. Even a draw isn't very good at this stage. We need wins

You would think it would be common sense to protect the fiend and not have him lose so much, so early, but he has. They could have not even put the belt on him and kept him undefeated. They cant see the wood from the trees at times. The Goldberg situation is strange. I loved his original run, what a character, but of all legends, him returning just doesn't make sense or appeal to me. Like the main event of the Royal rumble, really? He has never been part of a group, he doesn't do much on the mike, he's old now. Surely there are better options for Mcyntire. Even Seamus makes more sense and they could have a great match with the right stipulation. Rollins either.

Mulgrew is on that or more I would say? I suppose they were paying Rooney whatever he was on too. Some strange stuff going on there with money alright Silly by Derby there. Whatever about the incident which was despicable and I would have no time for , they set themselves up for an easy takedown when they didn't sack anyone else who was involved. Badly advised.

Even if's freezing though, they shouldn't need to leave the undersoil heating on all day, surely it can be timed so that its not on the whole time, but also that the pitch doesn't freeze? Leaving it on for a week non stop seems excessive and would certainly loosen it up

Too many cameras make Adam go crazy

Just reading there 2 goals in his last 9 games for Armstrong. Bit of a drought, whatever way it's spun. Sunday be perfect to get back amongst them. Proper Boro defence.

The fact he has played so few games is a massive concern. How could he be expected to come into the Championship now? Good player , but I would imagine it's fake news

At least headless chickens would have run around a bit. We looked like we were in quicksand first half..I suppose we almost were, but it didn't seem to impact Stoke as much.

If we have been offered anywhere near what we paid for Gallagher we should take it. Even if we are selling Armstrong as well. Definitely take the money for Gallagher anyway....

Fake news

What's your issue with Martin O'Neill? Not convinced myself, but I think he would be a pretty popular choice with fans going off his record. Do you think we would be any different from a mid table this season without him? I don't. I reckon a canny manager could replace him for 7-8 million , bringing in someone who may not score the same amount, but would bring more to the team. Change left over then to strengthen the areas we are weak in.

A backwards step in what way? A promotion challenging side could be built with £20 million. Armstrong may keep his goal scoring record up from last year, but he also may not. His all round play isn't anywhere near someone like Watkins, who went for similar to the figures being discussed. I agree that it's unlikely anyone is genuinely close to bidding that much for him. There are surely better options for clubs at those figures. Although perhaps the current situation with the pandemic and also Brexit might make a domestic transfer like this more attractive to PL clubs, although I can't see £30 million and we ain't going to sell cheap. Is Mowbray the man to spend £20 million? No, not in my eyes. His Gallagher and Brereton transfers being the evidence. Now what could Mick McCarthy, Pearson or Martin O'Neill do with £20 million ? It's a mouth watering proposition. One player never made a team and that's certainly true for Armstrong.

I would be more than surprised if we got £30 million for Armstrong. In fact I think it's pie in the sky talk and putting that price on him because West ham bid 30 million for someone else. Watkins went to Villa for around that amount and he is a far more rounded and complete player than Armstrong. If ofered that, we absolutely have to accept it. Especially in today's market.

Absolutely not. Look at their careers Ward and Greer were two of the worst centre halves I have ever seen

Although you said in the other thread this season is over. So you surely got to take that money then? While it's being offered

The thoughts of that are too good to be true. There's no way he's coming back

If he was sold , which would be disappointing to lose the top scorer , I would be hoping at least £20 million would be reinvest this window. Difficult to see that happening though

£30 million is pretty tempting

You don't see why we can't sign good defenders who aren't in their last legs? Ya I agree with you there, but we don't, hence why I suggested him. I'm not saying he's better than Ruben Diaz or Van Djik. Yes he was a regular, but how many Derby games would people, including yourself,have watched beyond highlights? Be honest. I would prefer a short term fix of a proper defender, rather than resorting back to Johnson in February, which is inevitably going to happen. Anyway, as I said above, he had joined Huddersfield, so let's see how he goes there.

Ya, it's so unfortunate what happened there. Hopefully he bounces back

He has a lot to offer though, in spite of his technical limitations. We just have too many injury prone defenders. How good they are is pretty irrelevant, because they never seem to get going. Williams and Ayala the worst. I would imagine a lot of managers wouldn't bother with them because of that. Hopefully Wharton doesn't fall into that category.

Was thinking the same