Why on earth are Forest taking off their most effective player? Not that I'm complaining but it feels like Hughton may actually be even more inept than Tony.

Carter saving us there. That left winger of theirs has been causing problems all game. Screaming for an actual winger on the right to help Carter.

If he hadn't already been booked that would have been a yellow, so why not there?

GGGGGOOOOAAAALLLLLL

I feel this is a bit unfair considering since he's spent the entire year playing as a forward when he clearly isn't one - I feel he'd be much more effective if he was actually on the wing.

I really hate this false 9 nonsense - the only team that has ever consistently got results from it had literally the greatest player in world football in the position... even City with their embarrassment of riches struggle without an out-and-out striker. So why on earth do we think we can do it with a young winger with no creativity at either side of him? It boggles the mind, it really does.

So far they're just rolling through the midfield every time they come for us, Kaminski equal to them so far but it's just asking for it.

Yeah, the effort that has gone into the audio/video coverage so far this year really is reflective of the state of the club as a whole.

I've lost count of how many games where we're doing fine and then the opposition counters Tony's tactics and we flounder because he's incapable of any level of tactical nous. Frustrating but can't see him going as much as he needs to.

No surprise at all that the second we swap back to Tony's much loved possession based super football we get rolled over again. Get rid of the clown.

To be fair to him aren't they even more screwed than we are in terms of being able to get players in etc?

It's finally up

Me neither, though I had a 'mare finding it for the Swansea game too. Glad to know it's not just me this time.

I don't think Arma is suited to the PL, but I can't argue that he hasn't earned a right to have a go at it. He's never going to get a chance at it staying here with this clown car of a football club. Obafemi coming in the opposite direction is an interesting one for me, mainly because I can't for the life of me figure out how on earth he's being valued at £5m considering his record so far into his career really doesn't inspire confidence.

Yeah but you know he'll hold back on the other subs because they're our youngsters on the bench and not Liverpool/City's

Didn't we have a much better record when out of possession last season too?

But it's the owners fault, not Tony's, that he spent a tonne of money, never plays them properly and will likely lose them for free with no value gained.

We spent half a season losing game after game because of this obsession. And then people have the gall to question why people have no interest in paying to watch this mess.

1. Hopefully not, but probably 2. Hopefully not, but probably will get a new contract if we manage to go two games unbeaten at any point 3. Kaminski 4. 23rd (Luckily derby are still more screwed than we are) 5. West Brom probably

I think he hasn't played well for a while, but he's not the same aggressive midfielder who pushes us up the pitch like he was when he broke through. As with any other player who has the hunger to move forward, the tinkerman coaches that aspect out of them. I'm sure if Dolan ever begins to push into the starting 11 more regularly he'll be similarly stunted.

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19483009.mowbray-explains-absence-blackburn-rovers-defender-ayala/ I may have missed someone posting this earlier but as expected Ayala will probably be parachuted in against Swansea despite no training - he'll be lucky to complete 10 games this season. What a waste of money for a player who has never been that good. Also noting the comment about Bolton, interesting how Bolton are a big club but if anyone tries saying that about Rovers he gets all defensive. Get this clown away from the club ASAP.

I'll be honest, I never paid enough attention to Wycombe to know how good a manager Ainsworth is. However, one thing he will always have over Mowbray is he would actually give a damn. Very little more demoralising than a manager who sits in the stands unresponsive regardless of what's going on on the field.

Our U23's really look up for it and hungry. If we could find a manager who could keep that as they move up instead of coaching all positivity out of them (see Travis, Dolan etc) then we could genuinely build a half decent team even with our current transfer situation.

I seem to recall Magloire having Vardy in his pocket last preseason only to be immediately shipped out and never get another chance. You know full well we could beat Leeds 8-0 and Tony would still play a bunch of City/Liverpool youngsters above them at the first opportunity.

That squad would reek of relegation with even a half decent coach, having TM on the touchline does nothing but compound that issue.