Might not be the smartest move if we want a player off them in future

Travis not getting game time recently when the squad is exhausted and we are leaking goals for fun is one of the strangest selection things Ive seen in a while. If he wasnt looking to move before I am sure he is now.

I doubt any of that will happen except Gamble on loan. We need more bodies in a small squad, so I dont think we will see anyone leave unless we get a fee and I don't think anyones paying for those.

The huge numbers of goals conceded across the season, inability to beat promoted teams, inability to get any points once going behind etc all add up to other candidates being preferred for roles a step above us. Just my view but I doubt there are many owners / CEOs thinking they need a bit of JDT in their life at the moment. He needs to look like a manager who can setup a defence and get team to perform when its tough.

Not to harp on about it but whats the source for that number? Based on the most recent accounts from @wilsdenrover it looks like we are spending around £20 mill on wages, not the £12M that was shown on a list.

Think hes well past that now, he hasn't got a very long cv and we are at the top of it. He may well walk away but he will do well to get a sideways move. His reputation has taken absolute battering.

Given the tax issues and all the negative press and admin that comes with that it seems possible to me that the delegation is over looking at ways for Venkys the extricate themselves. We can live in hope! Just seems logical as their approach has been to largely ignore us but pay the bills to keep the noise down, but now it's harder to ignore us and to pay the bills so that policy might change?

Yeah and it was from the left, ultimately it was pickering and whoever the midfielder was not closing down.

They have the cash though dont they? They could just write it off?

I would guess the key thing is whatever is being discussed with this delegation from India. Could be anything from an agreement on a new cash infusion to an exercise to generate more funds through sales. The horrendous run we are on will not be helping any conversations around boosting investment.

Out of interest just had a look at what he's up to and he is actually playing regularly for Ross County in the Scottish Premier League. So compared to some of our players who have gone on to disappear he's done reasonably well.

Yeah this is it for me exactly - simple options to get more solid are not taken

On the one hand bringing in JDT and Broughton showed a bit of ambition and a plan. But at the same time slashing the budget and saying the target is staying up undercut it... Organisationally the club is all over the place and thats down to the lack of engagement and clarity from the owners. We ned to get rid of them but that is not happening soon. At the same time this team has a lot of decent players and should not be shipping goals at the crazy rate we are. JDT and coaches can do more defensively with the resources they have. Its not sufficient to just say "we don't have experience".

Thought we played well, scored a couple of good goals, controlled the game completely yet gave away two soft goals, and were lucky to not let in a third. Our big problem is goals conceded - we have now in just over half a season conceded 48 in 26 games. Last season we conceded 54 in 46 games in total. But the way we go out and setup each game its like its not an issue. Its crackers.

I would have picked Ennis until Friday, but thought Telalovic looked more of a handful then and unlucky not to score so will be really surprised if he doesnt get another go.

Good shout! Maybe something for the supporters trust to ask a question on? I guess it may include all the fitness and coaching staff? Edit - just saw the above, so thats not the answer. No idea where the 75 comes from?

Yeah so that list is total nonsense then! Really appreciate the research @wilsdenrover

Thinking about it in terms of salaries cant the rough numbers be derived from published accounts? To validate what's on that list do any of our stattos have the most recent published salary numbers from our accounts? @canadarover?

Interesting list. Do you know what's the source is and how is it derived?

Thanks for this response. My view is that all these players were a key part of a team that finished just outside the playoffs on goal difference last year and 8th the year before with the only significant loss being BBD and he was a passenger the second half of last season. I can't see how its now a lower mid table squad. It's all opinions I suppose but Pickering, Hyam, Carter have all proven themselves as capable at this level. Brittain I accept has been a bit more hit and miss, but he looks a good player to me when properly supported. Moran has only had a three months here so harder to judge. But he looks a good one to me too. We are playing in very radical way at the moment. Pushing sometimes eight players forward when we break and looking to our defenders to handle counters on their own. My supposition is if we took fewer risks, sat in our shape a bit more, then broke at speed when it opens up, then we could stop conceding as many soft goals and not lose many of our goals the other way. We can be more direct, we don't need to have 20 touches through the middle of the park to get to the box. As someone said on the Hull thread we looked like we could hurt them with direct passing, like the Szmodics goal, but we rarely don't try it. And if we sit in our shape a bit more our tired players will be able to conserve our energy a bit more and be less vulnerable to the simple passing mistakes in midfield which have plagued us. Most of the goals we have conceded recently stem from poor loose passes in the middle of the park we didn't need to make.

I want to see Telalovic play, but after that mainly interested in setting up in a more robust way . How exactly we do that I think we probably go to 4312 and don't commit too many players forward. Primary focus is winning the midfield battle. Its sad we are reduced to doing this against Rotherham at home but we need to stop conceding early stupid goals as as soon as we go behind irrespective who we play we are then looking at a 95% chance of a loss. If we concede early then I fear the worst. As the game wears on we can look to bring the likes of Wharton and Moran and be more expansive. Leo Hill. Carter. Hyam. Pickering Travis. Tronstad. Garrett Szmodics Telelovic. Sigurdsson.

Personally I dont have too much of an issue with that - the better we get at developing and selling on players the more financially independent we can be and that makes getting rid of Venkys feasible. As long as we cant balance the books we're tied to them. But obviously we need to find a way to continue to develop players etc without giving amateur hour goals away.

Over the last couple of months Hyam, Carter, Travis, Pickering, Brittain, Moran are well below their level in my opinion. Obviously fatigue and injuries are a big part of it, but - in my view - we have left those fatigued and out of form players too exposed and worsened their decline.

Theres very little as pathetic as trying to antagonise people on message boards.... One day you'll grow out of it and look back and be disappointed with yourself.

Being condescending doesn't do you many favours. We all pay our money, watch the games, and have the capability to form our own opinions. Yours is no more valid or insightful than anyone else's. I suggest you accept that you have your own opinion, others will have theirs, and personally attacking or belittling other people for being different to your own view achieves nothing. It's easy enough to state your views from your own perspective without bringing "excitable supporters" "navel gazing" etc into the conversation. No one reads that and think it adds any greater value to your commentary, it only diminishes what you are trying to say.