JBiz

Defenders are going?

As far as I’m aware it didn’t cost anything as I only had the account setup during the online covid stuff. Sounded an intelligent bloke with a plan. We haven’t had many of them in the last decade. Proof is always in the pudding.

If only we’d hired more people who actually understand football, have a creditable reputation and experience level, and values their reputation in the game as opposed to their wallets, back in 2010…

@Neal I just watched the ten minute interview on rovers.co.uk and I feel exactly the same. Cautiously optimistic. The main thing that resonated with me is the importance of having a long term goal and plan.

More examples of why it’s worth taking any of the so called “whisper” stuff people post here with a dump truck full of salt

“It started with the fans” a direct quote from Bradley about the toxic problems at the club…. ”My performance level was good” Comes across as history told from the view of a villain.

Do you genuinely expect the club to be sending you an update every few days with exactly what is going on behind the scenes? Lets not mix this up - I agree with you on the problems of the club, the way it’s run with a vacuum between “boots on the ground” and the eventual decision makers. What I don’t understand or agree with is this expectation that everything should be signposted and/or given out in press releases. I don’t remember that happening at any club, never mind our own. You know as well as I do, most owners of clubs just use PR and copywriters to create a blanket release to cover most scenarios, “We thank such and such for his service” etc. If there is a club out there, that releases articulate press and news every week, even if the update would be “well we’ve started trying to hire a manager, but no luck yet”… I would be surprised. I think it would do you and a lot of others some good to switch off and just wait to make your mind up when it’s eventually released.

Ambition in football is money. Without Jacks dream or cash, he wouldn’t have come. Point missed? As in comparing / expecting the club to go out and get one of the best managers in the country? I know that he is talking about choosing someone and just employing them rather than interviewing, but it’s hardly a scandal to have such a process. If being told the truth that we aren’t anywhere near that level, is winding you up, then I suggest you get a grip. That doesn’t mean this process couldn’t be better, it doesn’t mean that the club is achieving its “maximum” and it doesn’t mean I believe we cannot compete in the championship for promotion. The idea that cost is irrelevant is ridiculous.

I personally just think he makes it up. 10 years of “wee” titbits and I can’t recall a single time one of his predictions has come true.

The contrast you seemingly can’t see is the difference between our club and football as a whole between now and then. Kenny wouldn’t have come without top tier wages or guarantees on spending. I’ll wait for you to explain how it is possible to invest the modern day equivalent, similar Liverpool or City, to go out and get one of the best managers in the country, promise them huge numbers / wages, with FFP and turnover that doesn’t even cover half our current wage bill.

Quite sure there was an application process for that one, Hughes hadn’t even managed in club football at that point, and he’d played for us 12 months before.

Doesn’t exactly help dispel the “they still think it’s 95” nonsense when you’re asking questions like that.

Says “Get the Badge in” 😉

My favourites of recent times, the Mulgrew and Danny Graham ones. The Craig Conway one with punching Calzaghe is also brilliant I think there is a Chris brown quote in one of those about “they still think it’s 95” and plenty on the stuff about the team preferring to play away at that time.

@JHRover and your credentials as CEO for a football club are? Personally would rather see a head coach decide who he is working with, and I always take LET with a pinch of salt anyway.

As hard as it is to accept - our league position is due to 46 games not pre and post Christmas. Out performed with a bigger budget, wage bill, inherited squad and still only managed a 1 point gap. A “top manager”…? Sounds like the opposite of sour grapes to me JHR. I find it incredulous that you can swivel from calling ours a rip off and theirs a good deal, purely down to this and the local geography. Each to their own.

I can’t remember you waxing lyrical about Kamiski’s distribution at Copenhagen? Whilst you’re welcome to this view, to me it simply sounds like an opinion created to enforce another. The caveat of Raya getting worse is utterly laughable since he’s essentially now an established premier league player with an international cap.

Have to agree Gav, the only place you’ll here specific backroom coaches being dogged is BRFCS. Make of that what you will!

Corberan and Carvahal are Chalk and Cheese! Not a sentence I thought I’d ever write. Anyway, the point; my knowledge and experience of Carlos during his Sheffield reign was a underachieving, this directly from Sheffield Wednesday fans, who also pointed out countless dodgy deals, ridiculous contract lengths, pay offs and the steady malaise that followed his reign, ultimately caused of a dodgy foreign owner in chansiri. Sound familiar? Its got nothing to do with foreign or not, I’d be well happy with Farke, or even someone of Warners ilk - but Carlos, who set it up so Sheffield Wednesday had their shirts made by his own company, is exactly the sort of agent riddled, 19 clubs in 21 years level jobsworth, I would rather not see at our club. Each to their own of course.

The free agent market this summer is chock full of talent. Some of it our own! https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/endendevertraege

Absolutely, and his penchant for spending big money to achieve nothing in England will probably put him off our job anyway. Id rather Johnson took over than Carlos the T-shirt salesman.

There was an athletic article last week that suggested it was Waggott who wouldn’t sanction the sale, not the owners.

I meant really that the promotions and achievements mean he’s done the same as those two managers. I am aware of Hughtons pedigree - I would probably feel exactly the same as you about his potential. Would prefer someone a bit more imaginative however but it’s easy to say, Mark Hughes was the last time we had any luck with a new or less established manager, and I can’t see this ownership vacuum getting any better at making those decisions.

So he’s basically Coyle and Mowbray combined…!