You’re wasting your time MMLP FFP is an excuse. Low turnover is an excuse. The pandemic is an excuse. Parachute payments are an excuse. If it is any solace, I agree with your view on the inequality caused, due to financial power of relegated teams compared to other championship teams. That’s not to say, if the owners truly wanted it, they could find a way. I’m sure we all get that. The rules are stupid though, and the last time we fell foul of them they caused untold issues, see “chapter 132, Coyle and Co” Lumping Mowbray in as a current issue, alongside the long term damage caused by bad decisions in their initial ownership, winds me up though. Rothwell caused this by asking to join a team we have a chance to usurp, and if his form dips - I won’t be pointing fingers at his salary as an excuse. Anyone with foresight knows that the club and the players would benefit massively from beating them, yet he still asked the question. Will take a lot to forget.

It doesn’t explain everything. Take your lens and look at FFP, speak to people who understand turnover and the damage the covid pandemic has caused. Even the most expensive assembled side in this division almost lost their best young player (carvalho) for peanuts yesterday and will likely lose him for nothing should they fail to be promoted.

https://youtu.be/Zylxybs4m3E Got a Cross on him All assists in a struggling team, certainly think he may make a big impact.

Smells like a YouTuber trying to get hits.

Surely the BBD Barcelona stuff is BS…! Wouldnt begrudge the lad that kind of opportunity but fucking hell…!

It’s now confirmed that he’s training with the team today. Now, I believe that he wanted to speak to Bournemouth as TM is probably too honest for his own good at times. I feel stupid for believing they accepted the fee and he was on the way down though? Overall, this is another good example of why ITKs like Peter Rourke and other journalists should be taken with a pinch of salt. Still think the guy is a bellend for wanting to speak to Bournemouth but it’s surely indicative that it was never going to be accepted, or he would’ve been on the south coast hours ago.

Love the part where you completely ignore that Rothwell actively asked to speak to another club, a direct rival in the current league positions.

Wasting your breath, to a few of these posters, relegation to league 1, ffp, turnover, attendance, covid and previous debt means nothing and is simply an excuse.

Can’t be Rothwells replacement because Hedges actually has a left foot! That’s the one thing that’s stood out in the clips, he seems to have a real cracking left peg, freekicks and corners too.

Yea, shit man management turned a league one signing into a hot property, Do you ever think before speaking?

We lose someone for 5 months and have no funds to replace? Id say it would take someone with “no brain” to suggest it’s an easy decision.

Tony did say he wouldn’t be going unless the replacements are agreed. Fingers crossed there’s something in the pipeline

You’d stick 3m in a blender and a player in the u23s then I guess! It’s no easy scenario or solution. The cause is Super Snake Rothwell though, and nobody else

So he’d deliberately screw the season to save his job? Conspiracy nonsense IMO

That question fails to acknowledge the power footballers / agents have.

Absolutely.

Sorry JHR but to let JR off the hook for wanting to go to a rival at this point is, in my opinion utter tripe.

Sorry, but I can’t understand any of this, sounds ridiculous to me. Mowbray, signing him, building him up in training and helping his development to the point he is in (an actual JR quote from less than a month ago) “the form of his life”… is flushing his head down the toilet? Manipulating opinion? People have eyes pal, they make their own mind up on his performances. 27 year old, has the first consistent spell of his career at this level and he wants to leave? He is the problem.

You’ve said all I wanted to say. Bridges burned with me. What an absolute wanker

I’m not sure if this is allowed; Joe Rothwell can basically “fuck off” as far as I’m concerned. If we where mid table, bottom of league etc - at least the argument is based on level. The worst part is he can do whatever he wants for free in 5 months. It’s not even as if we’re in a position to demand anything. Ridiculous turn of events.

This is the “why can’t we force people to sign contracts” thread😃

I still shudder when I remember Jal called him a “dud” after about 30 minutes of a cameo. He has really kicked on. Shows what love and support can do for confidence, and in turn productivity on the pitch!

Amen Certainly an issue bigger than just one man’s decisions, the clubs budget or ambition. I can’t remember seeing so many key players out of contract across England, uk and European football.

A quick look at our opposition tonight… You mean the team that are owned by someone trying to sue Derby for losing 50m+ for missing out on promotion? Why do you think Steve Gibson was so unhappy? Because Derby effectively cheated the rules. Look at them now. Also Boro have been overspending (past turnover) for over a decade. FFP is not a shield, an excuse or a way of defending any owner in the league. Its a set of rules all teams have to abide by. There are ways round the system - what about selling your training ground to your own owners? Sheffield Wednesday’s owner Chansiri, got caught out with dodgy mortgage values and fell foul of those rules. Will we get away with it? I hope so, because an embargo means no money at all spent; not just no million pounds signings, nobody on a free, nobody on loan. If there’s a problem with “fairness” it’s FFP and the way they’re enforced to make smaller teams to suffer and pay less wages. This is not excusing the damage the owners have done, and it’s certainly not forgiving them for sending our turnover south, but could a few of us bare in mind that not every single problem starts, an ends, with our owners.

Comparing it to smack? Is that anything other than ridiculous? If we’re using our own experience- the advert we used when winning the league was for a product that’s far more difficult for me to kick.