If we do sign Bellamy, then i owe a few people an apology as i said there was no chance of signing him and we have to take our heads out our asses!!

Right then everybody, after beating a plucky C'chester 3-0 yesterday, who do you want in the cup come monday lunchtime. For me, i would like either Harlepool at home (beating bfc in the replay of course) cos it should be a win for us and they would bring i reckon 4-5,000. Only better than that would be Burnley home or away, dont care which and a sat evening kick off under the lights. Superb. As for the nightmare draw, Chels and Arse away would prob see the end of our cup run and Charlton or saints (bar Tim lol) away wouldn't be too much fun either really. Opinions?

I was disappointed for C'chester, cos i got the feeling that they didnt play very well. Obviously when you are playing prem opposition it was going to be hard for them, but to go and play only averagly made the job immpossible. Fair play to their 2,500+ fans who came, had fun, made noise and were applauded by the BBe at the end, as was the c'chester team walking off. As for the game, the 1st awful goal really killed it. Pedereson is really growing into a proper player, was unlucky not to score, but i think he will be moved back to his better left mid vs chels. Emerton worked hard and played pretty well. He got round the back 2 or 3 times, eventually culminating in winning the free kick for the 3rd goal. Jemal took his goal very well, but needs to learn how to make the ball stick when he is holding it up. None the less, for a 19yr old on debut he did very well. Todd was crusing all day and Brad only had 1 real save to make, right at the very end. Their keeper, obviously looked like a nonce after the goal, but keep up banter with bbe lower throughout the 1st half which was good to see. A fun day on the hole, and i enjoyed it especially when matteo scored and i could relax, i mean not even Rovers could force a replay vs c'chester from 3-0 up could we.....? Poor crowd, not really bothered about that really as it was inevitable. Onto the 5th round and perhaps we can get a real run togther. I would like either Harlepool at home (beating bfc in the replay of course) could it should be a win for us and they would bring i reckon 4-5,000. Only better than that would be Burnley home or away, dont care which and a sat evening kick off under the lights. Superb.

It being on Sky was the most important factor, for the poor crowd for sure. Notlob brought around 4,500+ y'sday it was around 2,500. This shows that people prefer so go to a warm pub and drink and few pints and still come out about £15 better off. If the game had been a 3pm kick off it would have been a 24k ish crowd, im sure of it. P.s thats not to say that sky isnt excellent for eng football, just bad for our crowds

Its by the rag people so fortunatly nobody cares what hes says. Ground packed full of empty seats, i dont really see how you can say that when the ground holds 30k and we average 23k. Still, why let facts get the way of a good story!

They weren't so kind a few days ago. What was it..."at least we don't care if people are Catholic or Prodestant(sic)"? Actually, as prso said, he has never been to follow follow and doesnt post there, which backed up my original comment. If you had a look on there would find that they DO care very much if people are catholic or prod. So why dont you go take a little look on there before getting so pi33ed off. Oh and btw, it was my town that was taken the mick out of first not yours. As I also stated in that same post mate, my step-father is a Celtic supporter, my best mate at work is a Celtic supporter, and three of my mates in the 5-a-side team I run, are Celtic supporters. The whole Catholic/Protestant thing is blown out of all proportion, and I the aforementioned post also contained some decent info on the situation up here. Cheers. Soz prso, the post wasnt aimed at anything which you said, which i read and it cleared a few things us. The post was in retrospect to a previous thread between radgast and myself on the insulting of Blackburn and Glasgow. Cheers.

They weren't so kind a few days ago. What was it..."at least we don't care if people are Catholic or Prodestant(sic)"? Actually, as prso said, he has never been to follow follow and doesnt post there, which backed up my original comment. If you had a look on there would find that they DO care very much if people are catholic or prod. So why dont you go take a little look on there before getting so pi33ed off. Oh and btw, it was my town that was taken the mick out of first not yours.

The thing which i can't understand is, you say that winning stuff with the club you love is the pinnacle of someone like bazza's career, but its not like he aint won jack with rangers or something and want to return home to get his first trophy. Im mean he has countless winner medals from scots league, cup and league cup so why go back and win yet more, thats the bit i cant get. He has done everything he can in the scot game, even a treble so surely if you have made the initial decision to move on the why go back to beating motherwell 4-0 at home everyweek? All fair points, but the comparisons between English and Scottish football isn't the issue here. Look at it this way. You say why go back to beating Motherwell 4-0 every week? Ok, fair point. However, let's take a look at the Premiership for a second. Chelsea at the top, having only lost ONE game all season. Arsenal last season, the "Invincible" team ... one we'll likely never see again for a good few years, if we're lucky. The point I am trying to make is that the top teams in EVERY league in the World, win 99% of their games. The following is all hypothetical: Manchester United could beat Norwich 4-0 every week. Arsenal could beat Portsmouth 3-1 every week. And Chelsea could beat West Bromich Albion 4-0 every week. The point is that the top sides in every league, will win most of their games. The simple fact is they are a class above the rest, and Rangers are no different in the SPL. You could say "ah, but in the Premiership, everyone has the chance to beat everyone else", which sorry I don't agree with. Again, not meaning to sound disrespectful to Rovers, but Chelsea winning 4-0 against you earlier this season at The Bridge was not exactly a shock was it? Exactly the same as Motherwell losing 4-1 to Rangers three weeks ago wasn't a shock ... although at 2-0, Motherwell pulled one back with a screamer and made us work for the 4-1 scoreline. I get the feeling, and please correct me if I'm wrong, that the view down south is that Rangers and Celtic can put out any team from their squad and walk an SPL game. Correct? Sadly, this is not the case. After clawing back a 7 point gap on Celtic to go 1 point clear at the top, we travelled to Pittordrie to play Inverness, a team who shouldn't even be in the SPL in fairness, but credit to them ... West Brom are hardly Premiership class either! Anyway, within 5 minutes we're 1-0 down. Thankfully, Dado Prso equalises for us, but Inverness were unlucky not to beat us. Who'd have thought Inverness would hold Rangers to a 1-1 draw? You could say, "but Rangers had an off day". But then again, I'm sure Jose Mourinho looks on Chelsea drawing 2-2 with Bolton after being 2-0 up, as an "off day". Trust me when I say, the SPL is an inferior league to the Premiership in terms of the quality of player playing in it ... but please, don't think the SPL is like PlayStation game on the easiest setting, where Rangers and Celtic walk through opposition defences like they're not there. The SPL is a very hard league, in terms of how it's played. It's the same as the Premiership with respect to that it's fast, frantic, and can be entertaining. The view down south is that it's a "Mickey Mouse" league, but this comes from people who form their opinions, sadly, on the strength of their own league and the fact we're in Scotland! My final point with regard to this, is that Celtic lost a 7 point lead to allow us back to the top of the SPL. 3 of those points came from us beating them 2-0 at Ibrox in Novemeber. If the SPL was a canter for both the Old Firm clubs, then surely a club like Celtic would not have thrown away four additional points before allowing Rangers to use their home advantage in an Old Firm tie to change the SPL leadership? Trust me, it's not a canter. You say that you "don't get" why Ferguson would want to go back to Rangers. For a fellow Bluenose, that answer is simple mate. Unless you've been in Glasgow for a sustained period of time, you won't realise the passion for Rangers. I appreciate fully, that ALL supporters of ALL teams will love their team with a passion, but in Glasgow, football is life. Sad as it may seem, you need to experience it for yourself first hand to understand just HOW mad this city is. Ferguson was brought up in a Rangers family. He used to watch from the stands as his brother Derek played for Rangers, and he dreamt of one day emulating and indeed surpassing him ... which he did. For a TRUE dyed-in-the-wool Bluenose, lifting the SPL title would be on a par with the UEFA Cup, etc. Riddicule me if you will, but it's the truth. It doesn't matter how many times you lift it, Richard Gough lifted it 9 times in a row, as did McCoist, Durrant, and many other Rangers greats, all of whom were dyed-in-the-wool Rangers supporters. I can't put it any differently, it's difficult to understand. Quite frankly, after the health of yourself and your family, Rangers are priority. They're the last thing you think of at night, and they're the first thing you think of when you wake up. Glasgow Rangers are like one massive family, and even if the body leaves Ibrox, the heart stays. Sure, Ferguson could sweat it out in the middle of the English Premiership with Blackburn, trying to push them into a top 6 spot, but he'd always be glancing up the road to see how Rangers are doing in the Group Stages of the Champions League or UEFA Cup, wondering how he could have helped us. However, what if after those two seasons, at the age of 29, a move to another English club further up the table, doesn't bid for him. He's pushing on 30 and again, with no disrespect, he'd regret NOT coming back to Ibrox, because the chance of European Football had deserted him. The chance to regularly lift trophies had deserted him. And the chance to play for the only fans who can support him "properly" had deserted him. You have to look at from Barry's point of view ... the love for Rangers Football Club, in a fan, is comparable to that of loved one. And that is no joke. That's the best I can put it, and even that I feel doesn't do the job. After a painful three years of debt management and selling of our best players, we're finally ready to rebuild a squad fit enough to wear that jersey and walk onto that field. I'd love to see Barry back, but sadly I can't see it happening. Cheers. Very interesting points made, and made well too. This perhaps gives us more of an understanding of what the clubs means to hardcore blues fans though i think the bazza issue has more than just love of club, for want of a return. From reading your posts, you seem a very knowledgeable and sectarian free Rangers fan. I presume therefore you dont post on a footymad sire called follow follow, which seems to cater to more extreme rangers fans . If you do that is, what do you make of the site.

The thing which i can't understand is, you say that winning stuff with the club you love is the pinnacle of someone like bazza's career, but its not like he aint won jack with rangers or something and want to return home to get his first trophy. Im mean he has countless winner medals from scots league, cup and league cup so why go back and win yet more, thats the bit i cant get. He has done everything he can in the scot game, even a treble so surely if you have made the initial decision to move on the why go back to beating motherwell 4-0 at home everyweek?

Thats exaclty why i like Mark Hughes. He is very aware of what goes on around the football world, and im sure it aint passed his mind that we have been on last 4 times in a row.

Notlob seem to in a good bit of nick, with 'gonna spit in a minute' especially playing very well at the moment. I am hoping that Nelson plays and that perhaps Boyth and gally to start up front 1-1, Gally for us and Nolan for them 24,000ish

Whilst i am very happy with the ticket prices, can i make 1 small comment. I would like to have seen a young persons ticket available to non season ticket holders. That is a general comment, as well as for this match, as i feel that all round we should introduce young persons tickets at Ewood. And Nog, change the bloody attendance record please, its getting very boring!! Kinell! And a prolonged debate on young persons tickets is 'interesting'? You need to get out more. When it takes an eighteen year old 7 hours to earn the price of a ticket to watch Blackburn Rovers v Cardiff I'd say it is a very valid and interesting point. Or don't you want to see future generations down at Ewood thenodrug, probably not as you could tick "income" off your list of things to worry about. Or hadn't you considered young people can't afford to buy their own tickets at full price? Careful your slips showing again Pual. You cannot resist having a pop now and again can you? Fact is that you would be better off writing to the players asking them to take a 50% pay cut, then we could all enjoy cheaper tickets OR alternatively we can pay less and end up watching cheaper football in the lower divisions. Sorry for not being able to make 2+2=5 to suit your sensibilities but no one else can either. Cheers paul for backing me up, i have no idea what in God's name the 'nogdrogs' problem is? Seems to try and wind people up with offensive comments! As for the original comment, very interesting article in the independant paper today. It was basically saying how the average age of a prem supporter is around 42, because of the lack of young people going. The problem isn't with under 16's, all grounds offer significant reductions on their adult prices. The problem come with the lack of support from people in my age range, of say 17-21 (those at school or uni perhaps). Most of us are paying full price for tickets and only 1/3 of prem grounds offer student price tickets. ONLY 8% OF SUPPORTERS ARE AGED BETWEEN 16-24 IN THE PREM, which seems dangerous, after all these people should make up the main body of support in the following yrs. These stats make interesting reading and should be acted on, like for example a compulsary student ticket at all grounds or something. P.S Sorry if ive bored anyone

Pathetic and sad. Are you proud of wrecking your own town?? If you are, your on the wrong site, a burnley site would be a better 1 to go to, if wrecking your own town is your kinda thing. Oh and btw, if burnley were in the prem, then we would show you what a real derby is like. There is no more passion or excitment in any derby in england so go away.

Whilst i am very happy with the ticket prices, can i make 1 small comment. I would like to have seen a young persons ticket available to non season ticket holders. That is a general comment, as well as for this match, as i feel that all round we should introduce young persons tickets at Ewood. And Nog, change the bloody attendance record please, its getting very boring!!

Thommo for me, as he is the perfect player to lead by example. Running up and down for 90mins, scores gets back and can get into a challange to fire a team up. Spiky player as souey used to call him, and i think is a captain in the mould of flitty only of course a lot younger. I also think that thommo would raise him gave with the extra resonsabilty. I have reservations about todd cos of that business last yr, but we will have to wait and see.

Happy with the signing, but perhaps even happier how our board have conducted themselves. Whilst b'ham were off blabbing to the papers, or making comments on the radio against Rovers, John Williams calmly said nothing but the minimum to the media and quietly went around his business of making a 2 or 3 offers for Savage. Gold, Sullivan and Brady have come out looking hyprocritcal, liers and moaners which gives indication of their amateurish board. In end, we have got the player we want and that in terms of off the field, blackburn is far more of a premiership club than b'ham could ever hope to be. Lastly, does anybody know the exact details of the deal. Ive heard around £3m, but how much is that up front, or after a certain amount of apps etc.

Well neither is dirty cold glasgow either. At least we dont care whether people are catholic or prodestant. Get off your high horse, boy. Im sorry for defending my town, to some idiot of a swede who barely even has a football career. Muppet. And in the process talking @#/? about something you clearly know nothing about (as T4E pointed out). Take your moronic generalisations somewhere else. And why dont you take yourself off somewhere else, if you care so bloody much about those 2 bigot filled clubs. Your right in fact, there is no relegious problems in Glasgow, everbody loves each other and at rangers celtic games there are no such songs as 'soon there will be no prodestants at all' or 'up to pur knees in fenian blood', i take it all back i was making it up.

Well neither is dirty cold glasgow either. At least we dont care whether people are catholic or prodestant. Get off your high horse, boy. Im sorry for defending my town, to some idiot of a swede who barely even has a football career. Muppet.

Well neither is dirty cold glasgow either. At least we dont care whether people are catholic or prodestant.

If Rangers wanna bid £8m plus then go ahead. If not, leave us in peace. Bazza will be a failure if he goes back now without fully proving himself.

This is exactly the type of gamw which i think Rovers will win. When we played them last yr at pompey, i believe they had a 100% record at that stage and hadnt conceded a home goal from open play all season. We broke both those in a excelllent 2-1 win. It was a great day out last yr, does anybody remember the stewards having to take the netting off seats, cos we took down more then they expected? Anyway, same again for this yr a 2-1 win for the Rovers in a slightly different team owing to injurys and bans etc. I would have Reid at right back, with Emo on the right, mgp on the left and Makoneo in the centre with thommo.

Didnt go, i was wondering how many Rovers fans made the trip, we could pay on the gate not so?

Im gonna go (only cos im feeling guilty about missing the 1st game ), but im not exactly thrilled about the prices we r gonna have to pay. Saying that if could have course be Cardiff's fault, i dont suppose we will eever know? Presuming we beat cardiff, which we really should at ewood then maybe the prices can be slightly different for colchester. Who knows from there if we get the right draw we could be in the 1/4 finals. btw is the 6th rnd the same as 1/4 finals, i always get confused lol.

Well played for starting this thread as i think he deserves a good deal of credit. Whilst of course knowing that he was playing pretty well for the last month, it was only when i concentrated more on his performance during the games at villa and nolob, 2 games in 4 days that i realised how well he is playing. Against notob, superb in the air and solid on the ground and agianst villa he was sensing danger before it happened. He also out musled the villa attack well. Give em a nu contract Hughes!

Although b'ham fans saw Reid in what has been by far his best game in a blue and white shirt, not reaching that level performance since then, i take your point that Reid is the better player and i think most of us would prefer him. There was a time when Rovers fans thought that selling DJ was wrong, but he hasn't exactly up rooted trees at b'ham has he?