As far as I'm aware our guidelines remain the same as when they were tweaked in 2017: Obviously 25 points in the equivalent of a sin bin these days but the general idea remains the same.

They beat Norwich 1-0 away back in October so he might not be wrong. Still a brutal swipe at Daniel Farke though.

Just finished WrestleMania. My main thought throughout was that it really, really doesn't need to be two nights. It just bloats the show with matches that could have been on Raw or Smackdown. It was cool to see a WWE event with crowds for the first time in over a year. A shame they piped in annoying crowd noise which generally made it hard to hear the authentic live crowd's reaction to things. Night One The weather delay was unfortunate, but at least it only delayed the show for 40 minutes, and we got to see some unscripted promos which is rare. With that said Shane was pretty bad, and Braun wasn't much better. Hogan getting booed on both nights, fucking lol. Vince is absolutely obsessed with bringing him back, despite his name value adding very little to WrestleMania these days. Did anybody buy WM37 because Hogan was guest hosting? No. So why put him out there at all when there was the risk of a negative reaction? They tried to drown out the boos with their obnoxious crowd noise dubbing, but you could still hear it. Speaking of fucking lol, Drew losing in the opener against Lashley? Really? The first show with a major crowd in over a year and the premier, tough-talking, fighting babyface loses in the opening match? I mean, Lashley is somewhat over so the crowd were still fine with it, but this company really does baffle me at times. The women's tag turmoil match was fucking awful. The only memorable part was Mandy Rose slipping on the ramp. Seth Vs Cesaro was a good match, but I don't understand why they were laying it on so thick at the end of the match, or why Cesaro was getting so emotional over winning. I know it's his first singles match at WM, but it wasn't for a title or even a #1 contender's spot. It's not like he's a rookie at his first WM either, he's been around for ages. Just made zero sense to me. Match itself was good though. Kingston/Woods Vs Styles/Omos was more backwards booking bullshit. Everyone wanted to see Omos get into the ring, so instead of cheering New Day, the fans were cheering the heel AJ Styles just because they wanted him to tag in Omos. As far as Omos is concerned he didn't really do anything impressive, but he sure made the New Day and by proxy AJ Styles look like chumps. No idea what their plans are for the big man but the people like him. Shane Vs Braun - amazing how they've ruined Strowman. I haven't been watching WWE regularly in the build up to WM, but I've seen clips of these two from Raw and am reminded why I haven't been watching. The match was... fine, I guess? Crazy bump from Shane off the top of the cage. Think the feud as a whole has weakened Strowman. Bunny/Priest Vs Miz/Morrison... first thing's first, even though I have no idea who he is, Bad Bunny did a good job as a celebrity wrestler. Not sure Damien Priest has gained anything from this feud in all honesty. Miz & Morrison are turn the channel bad for me. The match was OK. Nothing more to say. Banks/Belair was a fantastic match and well worthy of being the main event. Sasha's green-haired look was... interesting. Whilst I do like Belair and she's off to a good start, she needs to evolve from the happy-to-be-there, bubbly, smiling, clean cut babyface ASAP. That kind of gimmick dies a very quick death these days. She's kept her momentum going up until now, but it's time to switch gears now and establish a proper character. Night Two I think I've already established I fucking hate the stupid Fiend/Orton bullshit. This was more of the same. I don't care about any of this and find it silly beyond being able to enjoy any part of it. Also the same Fiend who is well known for kicking out of a thousand finishers and all kinds of punishment gets dropped and pinned by one RKO? Sure. I don't know if the end means Alexa is possessed by Sister Abigail or whatever... but shit like this is a big part of the reason I stopped watching Raw. Obviously the show being insanely boring was a fairly significant factor also. Nia Jax/Shana Baszler Vs Tamina/Natalya - poor Shana. What have they done to her? The match wasn't terrible or anything, but 15 minutes? Come on. Owens Vs Zayn - I'm so out of the loop regarding WWE that I had no idea this match was even on the card. Would have been a dream WM match a few years ago. I guess it still kind of is, but WWE have WWE'd Sami Zayn, so... not so much now as it would have been back then. From the video package this actually does look like one of the better feuds that's been built up, albeit there isn't much competition. Zayn's conspiracy theory gimmick seems quite well done, and Owens seems to have played the exasperated friend role well. Not sure why Logan Paul was required and don't think he added to the feud in any way (also didn't move the needle for Smackdown at all, because WWE's audience couldn't give any less of a shit about a YouTuber). Match itself was good, as you'd expect from these two. Somebody in WWE creative must fucking despise Riddle. Imagine being booked to be a totally obnoxious, oblivious idiot who is tolerated at best by everybody around him. Your character is basically that you're stoned out of your mind 24/7 and have no redeeming qualities. That's Matt Riddle on the main roster. It's sad because Riddle is actually good in the ring and the match wasn't bad. Good to see Sheamus still going strong, as there were rumours of him being forced to retire not too long ago. Big E/Apollo Crews - I had forgotten Apollo is now doing a Nigerian royalty gimmick. Better than his previous gimmick of smiling a lot and doing a back flip splash in every match, at least. I don't even watch Raw very often and I remembered Babatunde/Dabba-Kato, so not sure why the commentators were acting like they'd never seen him before. Did they really think everyone would forget this massive dude that they hyped up pretty big on Raw Underground only a few months ago? And now I remember Raw Underground. Wow, what a stupid idea that was. Asuka and Rhea Ripley had a decent match, but the match seems to have had barely any build, and Asuka always loses at WrestleMania, so... meh. It's cool to have two fresh NXT callups holding both the women's titles, anyway. Didn't need to see the Bella Twins on the show, that's for sure. I hate how they are eulogised these days by WWE and fans who grew up watching them. Brie is one of the worst women's wrestlers in the company's history, and Nikki wasn't much better. Brie was also an awful promo - Nikki got better over time. Of the two Nikki was definitely much better, but neither are anywhere close to the level of the women that came after them. Reigns/Edge/Bryan was a very strong main event, as you'd expect. Thank god Roman was finally turned heel - the role fits him like a glove. Interesting to have WM ending with a heel victorious. The only thing I didn't like about the match was Uso interfering at the end. It made sense at the start, but Uso playing so heavily into the finish just made it feel less like a WrestleMania main event. Overall - two nights is too long, WWE still seems quite boring to me, and WM hasn't convinced me to start watching it again. If anything it's made it even less likely. AEW has plenty of flaws but WM made me realise how grateful I should be for a genuine, big name alternative. It's little wonder wrestling viewership has dropped massively over the past 15 years with WWE putting out a product that's become consistently less interesting over time and no viable competition for anybody to turn to.

So they think they can trust the likes of HSH and the Coventrio but not actual Rovers fans whose only motivation would be to see the club succeed? Makes sense.

TM leaving won't change the club's trajectory in any major way. Mid-table championship is our threshold under Venky's unless they get extremely lucky with an appointment. The organisation and structure at the club is nowhere near where it needs to be for us to be successful in the long or even short term under the current owners. Change is needed at the very top for us to move forward, until then the best we can hope for is mediocrity.

Hopefully "I'm getting sacked tomorrow lads".

And nobody stepped in to say "it's been 4 years, shouldn't you have sorted that issue out by now?"

Even if Mowbray's claim about Armstrong was true, surely it doesn't reflect well on him that the team is so heavily reliant on one player? What about the £12m you threw down the toilet on Brereton and Gallagher, Tony? I would question if that was asked, but we all know it wasn't.

Why would Cardiff have been 'on the beach' when at the start of play today they were within 7 points of 6th with 6 games to go? Unlikely that they could get themselves into the playoffs but not impossible. Obviously drawing against us makes it almost impossible now for them to get there, but today was actually a pretty big game for Cardiff insofar as keeping themselves in contention was concerned. They should be absolutely gutted to have thrown away a lead twice against the team with the worst form in the league, at home, having played worse than that team throughout most of the match.

Because the team only have to play well when they feel like it. Holiday camp mentality, same problem as we had under GB.

Perhaps, but then why have we gone on solid runs of form under him as well? It's not like we're constantly terrible, just intermittently so. I think a lot of it comes down to motivation, which Mowbray seems unable to keep high enough to retain the consistency we'd need to be promoted. The manager doesn't instil a winning mentality and doesn't bring in players with that mentality either. If the players had turned on the manager we'd be getting hammered most weeks, as seen plenty of times elsewhere. This doesn't happen to us. It's wishful thinking to believe the players have turned on TM. I understand why people want to believe that, as TM is becoming more and more disliked, but I very much doubt that's the reality. The sad truth is more likely that the players we have aren't a great fit for the manager's "system", so even though they try it rarely works out. Frankly I'm not sure any group of players could be successful under modern day TM but that's another question entirely.

1 win in 15. I think this puts to bed any ideas the players want him out. They clearly don't as they wouldn't fight like this otherwise. The team is just either fairly shit at implementing Mowbray's ideas or just fairly shit. Apply as you see fit, but after this I think it's nonsense to say he's lost the dressing room. Hope he's gone soon but think this "result" will keep him in situ ( and a defeat probably would have as well, tbh).

Can't believe anyone is surprised. This has happened so many times under the current manager that it'd be more shocking if we came from behind to win. Far more shocking.

It's at best a draw at this point, which would still mean only 1 win in 15.

Every game we fail to win brings more shame upon Mowbray, and brings him closer to breaking the worst kind of records which will hopefully make it difficult for him to find work at this level again when he finally leaves. I hate feeling this vindictive but after the Brockhall fiasco I'm out of empathy for the manager and his cronies.

Yes, all that money unnecessarily wasted on a scheme that the current lot were trying to sneak under the radar. Massive positive.

I don't think you need to worry.

Good news. Let's hope it's soon followed up with the sacking/resignation of Waggott, Mowbray and Venus.

And keep in mind this is the second time Mowbray has taken us on a truly horrific and embarrassing run of form. We also had the 9 defeats in 11 run in the 18/19 season. I believe somebody on here mentioned this is our worst run of form in 43 years. Imagine being able to lead a team on a worse run of form than Steve Kean, who was mostly managing us at a level higher than this one! If Mowbray had any of the pride he claims to possess he would have walked away a long time ago.

So now it's Travis on the chopping block. Never Mowbray's fault, is it?

He's very lucky stadiums are empty at the moment. I think even the Ewood crowd would have had enough of his nonsense by now.

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/tony-mowbray-sends-defiant-message-to-blackburns-fans-after-frustrations-come-to-the-fore-in-barnsley-win/amp/ Hard to believe this was a year and a half ago. "The Rovers boss also reiterated his claims from last week that he will walk from the club if he feels it is the right thing to do" Lol, yeah, sure. Still not the right thing to do now, apparently. I wonder how bad it has to be before Tony decides it's "the right thing to do"?

Problem is we are way past the point where most managers would be relieved of their duties due to poor results, therefore after every draw or defeat there's an expectation that he surely must be sacked now. It's a sharp reminder that the club still very much exists in the Venkyverse where nothing makes sense and decisions seem to be made largely at random. For all we know the decision has indeed been made to pot TM, but it won't be enacted until September. The club is still horrifically dysfunctional and that is being laid bare more than ever as Mowbray continues to drag us down with seemingly no repercussions.

Coyle was actually sacked incredibly quickly by Venky standards (and considering the agency he came from). Still far too late, though, which tells you everything about how the club is run.

Venky's either couldn't or wouldn't sack him. Hard to say which as I think there's a lot about that situation we still haven't heard. Either way they clearly parachuted Shebby into the mix to make Kean uncomfortable. Kean saw a way to get a payout without getting sacked and took it. Arguably a win win for both parties as Venky's get Kean out and Kean gets a payoff. As usual the club and the fans were the losers, as we have been ever since the owners purchased the club. The TM situation isn't the same as Kean. More akin to Bowyer I'd say. Somebody the owners like and trust. Combine that with what is likely a passing interest at best in the club's fortunes and you get obvious decisions being delayed by months. Who knows how often Pasha reports back to them and what picture he paints. I doubt outside of his updates they care enough to look into us any further.