Last time this happened under Bowyer our season ended around February, but they didn't sack GB until October after the club had spent the summer selling all of our assets. If there's one thing that's for sure about our owners it's that when they remove the manager it will be done far too late.

Unless Kaminski gets injured. Scary thought. I'd rather have the Greek in goal at this point.

Martin hasn't been on in a while, but if he does come back I'm sure he'll appreciate the delayed response 😅

In fairness he did post that almost a year and a half ago!

The blasé comments of a manager who couldn't care less. Where's the hurt? The embarrassment? The anger? If you've stopped caring Tony then fine, it's obvious things aren't working and perhaps you've given up. If so then do the honourable thing and resign. If you aren't going to do that and are going to cling onto the job because you hired your mate as your boss and we have absentee owners then so be it, but at least pretend that you care and that results like this hurt. Don't insult us with platitudes and lies.

Shameful performance from a team with no motivation and no pride. New manager required ASAP. In Venky-time that'll be this time next year, unfortunately.

At least Bell is reminding everyone that no matter how long he's out of the first eleven, he is absolutely not the answer. Never has been and never will be.

Becuase we can't defend, and never will be able to under this manager. We can't even keep a clean sheet against a League One team. It's death by a thousand cuts, and sadly I get the feeling we've only had about five hundred so far.

No shots on target and losing to Doncaster. Embarrassing.

If we spent £30m the only guarantee would be that none of it would be spent on the back four. We'd end up with five new CM's, three strikers to compete for left/right wing slots and another goalkeeper.

Tbf I would have looked alright against that Birmingham team. Much bigger challenges to come, although I imagine Douglas at RB was a one off due to injuries, so we're unlikely to see him there again any time soon.

Tbf he's getting paid a hell of a wage to be the dressing room/social media motivator... I wouldn't be sulking too much either!

Amazing how far Karanka has fallen since getting Boro promoted only 4 years ago. From that to two basket case clubs in Forest and Brum, with no success at either (and an 18 month gap between those jobs). Mowbray will cling onto this job for dear life. He ain't going anywhere.

You've got to say that Birmingham are looking at relegation after watching that. Failing to lay a glove on our makeshift defence points to major problems. They're as bad as Wycombe were when we smashed them, maybe worse, our team is just weaker now than it was then. Referee's performance was abysmal across the board. Should not be officiating at this or arguably any level. I rarely comment on referees but this one was really, really bad. Pleased for Dack and great play by Dolan to set him up. Gally will still be back on right wing next game though. I don't take much away from this other than thinking we're still set for mid-table and Birmingham will do well to avoid the drop. Relieved that Travis came through the match in one piece, seemingly, and that Dack is back in the goals.

I am fully expecting an equaliser, but even if we do scrape a win it's difficult to care because it's clear we are going nowhere under this manager. Feels very similar to Bowyer's final full season. From memory the season was basically over by February, and I think it may well be the case this time around too.

Have to keep reminding myself we're actually winning this one. Doesn't feel like it.

I only care about what Rhodes did when he was at Rovers Den, and that was consistently score goals in an often turgid team. I do think Arma has more potential due to his pace, but will need a better manager in charge to unleash his full potential. Unlikely to happen under Venky's, but maybe when he eventually moves elsewhere. Josh King certainly went up a number of notches once he moved to Bournemouth. It's amazing really. Lenihan has never been a great defender, but it's hard to fathom how he's become as bad as he is now. Is it just a confidence thing? A lack of consistent partner beside him? Something Mowbray is doing in training? There's got to be a reason because he hasn't lost the talent he has and he should be at the peak of his career. Something isn't right.

Considering how Rhodes was criticised by a fair few posters until the day he left I doubt it tbh. Some posts on Arma go way OTT imo - not saying you do, for the record, but some ridiculous comments posted at times. Lenihan is a far bigger problem at the moment. Has regressed to a League 1 player. Contributes nothing and makes me nervous every time he's involved.

Bashing Armstrong is fine if that's what people want to do, but much like when Rhodes used to consistently get flack it's missing the bigger picture. Armstrong missing chances is annoying, sure, but nowhere near as annoying as having a defence that can't defend and a manager who has no idea how to set up a team to consistently play well. Sort those things out and perhaps we have a better balance, less reliance on one player scoring (and less focus on said player missing chances), and no need to score 3 every match to feel somewhat confident of getting a win.

It wouldn't matter if we built from the back like almost every successful team does. Armstrong is not the root problem, just as Rhodes and Gestede weren't when we failed to get into the playoffs during Bowyer's tenure.

The reason Armstrong's selfishness is such a problem is because we concede so often tbh. If he gets on the scoresheet but then fails to set up a couple of golden opportunities to score it can be the difference between losing 2-1 and winning 3-2. Not Arma's fault Mowbray can't organise a defence to save his life, but it's part of the reason we're stuck in mid table despite having one of the best goalscorers in the division.

Worst team we have played in a very long time. They'll still snatch a draw if we don't score another though.

I knew Brum were terrible, but wow. Even with this team we shouldn't be satisfied with anything less than 3 points today.

If the players respected Mowbray that much then they'd have already signed new deals rather than let them run this close to the wire. Any player with serious ambition would want a manager in situ who could push the club further than mid-table. If they don't then we might as well let them go as they won't help us get beyond where we are now anyway.

That starting line up is reminiscent of the type put out by a manager who has seriously lost his way, pretty much to the point of no return. Rushing Trav back is hugely concerning for me - lesson obviously not learned from the Williams situation. We could still get a result here because Brum are also terrible, but Mowbray desperately needs to be removed from his position. He's lost all sense of rationality.