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I agree, I want him gone at this point, but I don't think it's going to be the answer to all our problems. The issues unfortunately run much deeper than Tony Mowbray.

What worries me about TM leaving is that because we have this outdated structure where everything at the club revolves around the manager, his departure means we essentially start from scratch. Theoretically the new manager could pick up where TM left off as far as scouting initiatives, etc, are concerned, but it makes it a lot harder for the new incumbent to hit the ground running when he has so many tasks to deal with. If we were smart we would have evolved the structure of the club to allow seamless transition between managers, but we have the exact opposite which makes things a lot more difficult - and that isn't even taking into account the likelihood of our owners hiring another dud like Coyle.

We need their cash because they put us in a financial black hole. We were chugging along OK until they came in and burned everything to the ground - so forgive me if I don't fall at their feet in reverence. The least they can do is keep the lights turned on considering the destruction they've wrought in the past decade, during which the "highlight" has been promotion from a division we hadn't been in for decades previously.

A competent club would take this as an opportunity to jettison the current lame duck manager and get in a replacement for the final few games of the season, bed him in with the current squad and give him a chance to experiment in the last few competitive games before the summer. Unfortunaely we have Waggott and Venky's, so, as you were.

Indeed, worst run of any manager since Venky's rocked up I believe - including the likes of Kean and Coyle. Fortunately for TM we had a points cushion which meant we were never in any serious danger of going down, but there will come a time when we don't pull up out of these nosedives. Removing Mowbray at that point will be too little, too late, though. He's proven time and again that he cannot solve the issue of our see-sawing form, and it's time for a change. We all know it could get worse and Venky's could appoint a joker, but Mowbray's race is run here and I'm convinced it will end badly if he stays.

Waggott isn't going to remove his mate, so unless Venky's get involved (and they probably couldn't tell you where we are in the table, let alone current results) we're relying on Mowbray to do the honourable thing and walk. Seems unlikely but if we lose 5/6 in a row he may feel he's lost the players and go. I believe in the past he has suggested he'd resign in such a circumstance, although the proof will be in the pudding as to whether he was telling the truth or not. Finishing in essentially the same position as last season is unacceptable considering the fees spent on the likes of SG and BB, with no remit to sell any of our major assets to fund signings.

Stoke already 2-0 up against the mighty Barnsley.

It's a shame there aren't any fans at Ewood, as growing fan unrest seemed to be the only thing that really pushed Mowbray close to the edge some months ago before the last death spiral ended. I foresee this one continuing at the very least until we play Reading at home, by which time we could easily have lost six on the bounce.

I have zero confidence in that team getting any kind of result. That's not to say it's impossible - in this league even poor teams have a chance of upsetting better opposition - but there are so many players there I have no faith in. Walton, Bennett, Johnson, Rothwell, Gallagher... the rest are capable of putting in decent performances, but for those five it would be the exception rather than the norm.

Millwall were fortunate to have a genuine bloke in Neil Harris who saw he had reached his limit at the club and stepped down to allow them to progress. Very very few of those sorts in the modern game.

Some very dark stuff clearly going on here. For Wigan's current "owners", whoever they may be, to put the club into admin and bring all of this inevitable attention to the situation is telling. If the alleged bet on Wigan's relegation is legitimate then I imagine there are severe consequences involved for certain people should Wigan avoid relegation.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/nov/10/blackburn-venkys-dave-whelan-wigan Those who don't learn from history...

There's every chance we won't win another match this season. Mowbray's death spirals tend to last between 1-2 months, so there probably isn't time to pull up out of this one before the season ends. Wigan are on a roll, so they could definitely finish above us. We could easily end up finishing in the same position as last season.

Every manager has a lifespan at whatever club they're at and Mowbray has reached his. He had a big chance this summer to seriously get us into playoff contention and he completely blew it. We've been left weak in numerous positions across the pitch, either because the players brought in aren't good enough or have never been used in the right way. I fear for what comes next under the idiots in charge, but Tony is done here. Unfortunately I'm not convinced he or anybody above him realises that yet.

Ain't no spiral like a Mowbray spiral. Probably not enough games left to swing it back the other way either, so I imagine it's going to be a depressing end to the season.

Well, at least no Rovers fans had to travel to see this. The line-up and performance is a slap in the face as it is, let alone for anybody paying for the privelege of going to Barnsely to support the lads and being served up this shit as thanks.

I want Mowbray rescinded. The bloke has lost the plot, needs to go before he really sets us back in the summer. Every manager has a shelf life and Tony has reached his. Thanks for getting us back up from League 1, now please go and let somebody come in who can balance the squad properly.

Didn't look like a red to me, but for fuck's sake. He wasn't even on the pitch ten minutes. The only positive is that Samuel being on the pitch was like the opposition having an extra player so we haven't necessarily lost anything.

Have we actually had a shot this half? Can't remember if Big Dom's miss was before or after the break.

Is this a sign of things to come under Tony's much publicised "new style" ? More possession, less goals and a defence that's been shit since the moment he arrived and never been seriously improved.

What worries me is Walton's poor post-lockdown performances will make Brighton think twice about using him next season (as was rumoured to be their original plan) meaning he'll end up back here again - probably after 2 months of trying and failing to secure a better goalkeeper again.

Also a problem that Downing is 36 and Tosin is a loan! Holtby is ours but can't play much more than 60 mins when he is fit...

Under Mowbray we've always been far more effective when being direct and using Graham/Dack as a focal point, so I can't say that article fills me with optimism. Not much good having 70% possession if you never score. I don't fundamentally disagree with what Mowbray is saying, I just don't believe he's the man to implement such a sweeping change in style.

I'd be extremely wary of selling any defenders as we are yet to buy any decent permanent defenders. Tosin & Cunningham both loans and the latter got injured almost immediately. Mowbray has had a fair few transfer misfires up top as well but at least we seem to be willing to invest in the attacking side of the team... not so much the defensive side,

If I had to take a punt I would tip Hull, Luton and Barnsley for the final three places - although Stoke, Charlton or Huddersfield could easily fall through the trap door if Luton or Barnsely pick up a string of good results from the final few games. Boro will be fine with Warnock in charge. Wigan also have enough to get over the line.