Name me another non parachute Championship club where wages don't outstrip revenue

Turnover. £40 million+ received in the last 3 years. Outstrips any ticket sales or shirt sales rivals have collected.

Venky bastards out

So many being played like fiddles. Some never learn

So you reckon the players have got together and lied? Why would they? Start from that answer and then ask what else I've said is 'paranoia'

This is the smoking gun. The players themselves confirmed that they hadn't even been contacted by the club. Not 'in discussions' or trying to sort things out, simply not even contacted. Now unless 3 senior players have got together and hatched a scheme to lie to the media when their media duties come around, for absolutely no reason, the logical conclusion is that they were telling the truth. This also stacks with the total inertia and multiple failings by the club going back years. No number of club plants on twitter will change my opinion on that. Those working for the Venky regime - directly by the club or indirectly coining it in via commission, agents or favours - have a long standing history of lies, misleading activity and saying things that either haven't or won't happen. Brittain's imminent new contract just the latest - made up to try and get their side of things out ahead of the truth and sale.

Does anyone out there really believe the claim that we have been close to sorting a contract extension? They're playing you for fools if so. Nixon and Jackson are pawns being used to hoodwink the fans. I doubt they know or care.

Will be interesting to see how many 'knocks' and 'illnesses' have been picked up

Floods in Italy wasn't it? Or maybe that was another one.

We aren't a club that signs competition for places or solid back ups. If we spend money and make signings it is to go into the first XI and replace departures. So I think anyone expecting Brittain and the new signing to compete for a place was highly optimistic. Of course they will dress it up as this with the fiction, spread via friendly journos, that a good contract extension was on the table. But that doesn't cost anything.

Jackpot for the Venky stooges - sell a couple of players for cash AND hoodwink the fanbase, via Nixon, that we were close to agreeing a bumper extension.

Important to remember that whatever we are paying out in fees we are at least matching by what we are bringing in from sales. That's the 'model' imposed on us by the owners and their legal issues in India. There's no other way of it, unless we are borrowing money from somewhere. So even if you are daft enough to believe we are spending millions, ask who is being sold to fill that void.

"Spent nearly £5m so far and only lost JRC, a 35 year old Danny Batth and Dolan (who was always gonna leave), yet u will still have people complaining" A tweet a short while ago liked by 18 people. I mean where do you start? It is scary.

Suspect we will just insert a couple of hastily arranged behind closed doors friendlies at Brockhall to fill that gap.

It seems clear that Gestede has well and truly got his feet under the table with the signings we are making. There will have to be more than a few fingers and toes crossed that he knows what he is doing here because on paper it is worrying. Granted he is, like everyone else around this club, working with his hands tied behind his back financially, but it is a high risk strategy. We've seen a similar sort of thing before with the Shebby and Portuguese influx. And thanks to someone last night pointing it out it does concern me that we've now signed two this summer from Vincent Tan's Belgian club who signed Gestede for Cardiff. I don't believe in such coincidences.

Hi Rudy No other club quantifies investment based on future wages and costs down the line. Everyone else quantifies investment based on the fee paid to get the player. Why? Well there's a pretty good chance that we will flog anyone who does ok, which will probably cover the outlay. Cloud cuckoo land stuff if anyone believes that we've committed to a £2.5 million spend on the two foreign signings we've made. Of course the only people it suits to spread such a grossly exaggerated figure is the Indians and their henchmen. Is £5k a week for these signings something to be happy or boastful of? It's a lot to us yes, but to a Championship club that finished 7th last year that doesn't sound competitive or ambitious to me. It screams League One finances.

On the contrary the less self-sufficient we are the better. The more it costs these owners and the harder it is for them to provide that money the more likely it is they will leave or give it up. Unlikely I know, but more likely than if it costs them nothing and they can just leave us to rot on the shelf. We've done the 'sell at a time where we get good value' - Adam Wharton, Szmodics - where did that get us exactly? Less than 18 months on from both of those - £30 million collected and what has it achieved? Nothing, we've reinvested a pittance and are now looking for more to sell. So yes I hope we lose the lot for free, then chief stooge has to go to Pune for £15 million this year and they can't do it. Game over.

You're better off having a couple of proven performers who at some unknown point in future will deteriorate due to age, than having a couple of kids or unproven younger players in there who might never be good enough. We know Travis and Tronstad are good enough and we know that rivals will line up to take them off our hands. We don't know what on earth this regime has planned for their replacements other than they will be cheaper, which, generally, means inferior. Not to worry though, at least we've got Forshaw secured for another year! With the way this club operates age and value mean nothing. We've had the good side of it - Adam Wharton - hit the jackpot then bundled him out the back door and never saw the transfer money again. We've had the other side of it - Adam Forshaw on short term deals. There is no plan or philosophy other than ££££££. If they can fill the gaps with 35 year olds they will as long as the contract terms tick the Venky boxes. Don't delude yourselves that there is a long term build or they are focusing on development/building value. They aren't looking beyond the next couple of months and ensuring the vermin owners don't have to send as much cash over from Pune.

Is there something wrong with a midfield aged 30 and 28? You make out like that is old, or unusual. Or that it is advantageous to have a couple of teenagers there instead who we will simply release or sell as soon as we can anyway. You also seem to be contradicting yourself. You confirm that they will most certainly get 3 years and decent money elsewhere (not sure where you've found the £20k a week figure from) yet suggest they aren't worth that. Well if they can get it elsewhere that suggests they are worth that. We can either pay the going rate or lose them and most certainly decline as a result. Our choice. I am concerned that you are doing exactly what the regime wants - accepting their decision making based on a belief that these sort of players should be let go because either they are 'too old' or their wage demands are excessive, and there's no evidence for either of those things. They are simply Championship proven performers coveted by rivals because they are good and therefore able to command Championship wages. The problem here is Rovers being unwilling to offer that.

Well they hadn't happened as of April, as confirmed publicly by all three of Travis, Tronstad and Brittain. Think I'll be believing them rather than the shady Venky stooges overseeing an exodus of talent. So unless something drastic has changed in the 2 months since April I think your confidence is misplaced. And the club could match their demands, just as it could carry a bigger wage bill when Mowbray was manager. Just like it could reinvest more of the £40 million received. It is choosing not to. Choice.

They haven't been offered them.

Gestede's racking up quite the collection of lies under his belt. Suppose that is what he is paid to do - keep feeding the fans excuses and nonsense whilst chief stooge guts the club behind the scenes.

Gestede has been pushing the 'homesick' Tronstadt lie since the calamitous 3 stooges interview earlier this year. It was his on-the-spot excuse as to why Rovers had done nothing about keeping such an important player. Thankfully Tronstadt himself clarified in his media duties that this wasn't the case and that he loves being here and would be more than happy to extend his stay. Ooops. Awkward. Life would be so much easier if everyone just swallowed the BS and left the stooges to get on with it. Anyhow it seems that has reared its head again on twitter today. Probably a club plant repeating the lie in the hope it gets adopted as the truth as it did with Eustace and Rothwell. Keeps the Indians off their backs if the fans believe it's all the fault of others and not the Regime. Thankfully more and more are waking up to what they are up to judging by the twitter responses. Still a few head in sand lot who can't comprehend that the problem here isn't the countless players, coaches, staff that have moved away from the cesspit.

Can guarantee that they will look to fill the void of no Leeds or Dingles Cat A games by creating a couple more. If Wednesday remain in their current turmoil they can also forget about that one being a sell out away end. I think embarrassment levels will totally go off the scale if we make Wrexham Cat A and use some really cringey marketing nonsense about their Hollywood owners, but I wouldn't put it past this lot. Totally shameless if it means shifting a few tickets to the tourist fans around town. They'll probably make the 'anniversary game' Cat A mistakenly thinking that hoardes of lapsed fans will flock to Ewood at any price to celebrate the 150th. That won't happen as most of us know, infact I can see barely any change to the usual sort of attendance and a mutinous atmosphere if Eustace comes back to haunt us.

True. Pound signs are flashing when it comes to these players. The club could have initiated talks months, even years ago giving themselves plenty of time and opportunity to iron out any problems / negotiations. They have chosen not to do that, inconveniently for the regime, if anyone needed confirmation, Tronstad, Travis and Brittain all confirmed the reality of the situation in their media duties a couple of months ago. Some of the head in sand brigade still defend the regime on this, suggesting that it would have been foolish to offer them new terms earlier in the year 'because we didn't know what league we were going to be in' or were concentrating on the run-in. I'm yet to hear a logical explanation as to why any of that prevents taking serious steps to try and retain key important players in the long run. Notwithstanding that the regime did everything in it's power to avoid promotion, including denying the manager and squad support in January and then allowing the manager to walk out the door in February to a relegation threatened club with minimal effort to keep him, even if we had by accident secured promotion after that these players would still have been more valuable to us under long contracts than short. Actions speak louder than words and actions show very little being done by the club. They can make baseless claims, like Gestede did in late March, of being close to completing important renewals and announcements being imminent, but the proof in the pudding is that this was yet more garbage spread to the fanbase via the local media to keep the heat off their back and the season ticket cash flowing. Waggott was the master of such things, going around the lounges telling people that Lenihan was imminently signing a bumper new deal, among other things. All this might be excusable if they weren't pretending they want to keep these players, or if they hadn't brought in £40 million from sales, or if we hadn't got recent experience of allowing prized assets to walk for nothing costing the club untold further millions. But we do and that makes it clear to me that rather than this be 'poor old Rovers' or accidental, it is instead a deliberate strategy by the regime to run down contracts, ensure that no wage rises are offered and diminish the club further. Their choice, as it always has been through the last 15 years.