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£1.50 off in celebration of our 150th anniversary if you sign up and pay before the end of March will be the sort of pointless silly gimmick that he'll come up with. I'm noticing a LOT of people on twitter and Facebook saying they won't be renewing because they've had enough of it. In some ways sad to see it has come to this but perhaps necessary as nothing else is going to shift the scum than something drastic happening like a collapse in ST sales.
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In my experience with the stooges if there is something they aren't telling us it is because they don't want us to know about it. If there was going to be a good offer or price reduction they would have gone public with it boasting about it by now. They're keeping it quiet for a reason - it will be at best a price freeze, probably an increase. Steve and Sohail's bonuses and pensions need topping up. A familiar dose of emotional blackmail in this advert, "Be part of our story" "It is about so much more than just football" "It is about uniting as one club, one community and one family" Basically we can't offer you anything positive on the football front so just forget about that and buy one for the 150th anniversary and 'doing your bit' for the community and family. Laughable. They should be ashamed and embarrassed to even mention such a landmark event given their conduct.
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Hot off the press the club have announced season tickets will be on sale from Tuesday 25th March Predictably they are running with the 'unique' 150th anniversary and some other claptrap about 'uniting' as a club, community and family. Unless I've missed it there's no mention of pricing. Be part of our story in our historic 150th year! | rovers.co.uk
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Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
JHRover replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Yes it is an odd one. We should also remember that there were clearly some efforts of some sort right at the very last minute to try and explore the possibility of Mowbray staying on with a new contract. Rather than just professionally announce his departure before the end of the season and then have a 'thank you Tony' and well earned send-off after 5 years it was all done down at the training ground after the season had finished and then released via club statement. My own belief is that the stooges and particularly stooge 1 was never particularly happy with the fact that Mowbray had a direct line to Pune and that as per earlier post ever since 2015 with Bowyer he has worked to sever that and for himself to be the only link to India. Obviously the Indians seem quite content with this. But I reckon it was all powerplay - Stooge 1 expecting Mowbray to relinquish control and play by his rules - this means going through him, working to the stooges' budgets (aka no money) and recruitment plans whereas in his initial days Mowbray had enjoyed reasonable backing and the freedom to recruit as he wanted. The weird breakdown in relations and link between Mowbray and Pune was odd. It seems to have started around the time of Covid and obviously all the travel issues and supposed difficulties it was causing Venkys' other businesses. So maybe Stooge 1 was able to take advantage of that, either to cut Mowbray's communications to India or to persuade Venkys to let him handle it from now on on the basis it would save them a whole packet of cash, who knows. I think the Tomasson and Broughton thing only came about at the last minute once Mowbray and Venus had cleared their desks and the penny started to drop with the stooges that the days of leaving it all to Mowbray were over and that we needed someone else running the football side of things. I might be wrong on that as it seems initially at least Broughton was given reasonable levels of power and finance....whether that was with the stooges' blessing or whether it came from elsewhere and the stooges then set to work at dismantling Broughton's powers as it encroached on their fiefdom again we will never know. I still think that the D of F setup with a head coach was in theory a good idea and had the potential to work well but this lot were never going to let it last or succeed because it is, as always, built on shifting sands, lies, false promises. -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
JHRover replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
So what happens if we don't get them, which most of us know by now we won't? -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
JHRover replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
My interpretation of the Bowyer one was that his personal link to those in Pune had been cut, which immediately shortens a manager's lifespan at the club. It was also around this time that stooge number 1 began to slowly but surely emerge from the shadows and take more of a hands on role in running the operation. The Lambert stunt was typical stooge number 1 - appoint a reasonable looking manager, not give him the resources he was offered/promised, so he walks at the first opportunity he gets. This is something that has been repeated since with JDT and Eustace and I suspect would have done had he plumped for Warnock rather than Coyle as Warnock wouldn't have put up with that sort of nonsense. But hey, bonuses are there to be collected and friends are there to keep happy so Coyle it was. So the only real exception / interruption to stooge 1's game over the last decade going back to Bowyer's sacking has been the Mowbray era. Interestingly Mowbray managed to quickly get out to India, bypass Stooge 1 and get promises and resources directly from the top. Eventually, as with Bowyer, his link to India was also cut, and from there it unravelled. These patterns aren't a coincidence in my opinion. -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
JHRover replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
The two Venky stooges running the operation at Ewood have bonuses and pensions to build up and they know their quickest route to doing that is to cut costs, sell players and sell more season tickets. I'm increasingly convinced that the lack of contract renewals since Gregg Broughton departed is a direct result of them wanting 'high' earners out and off the wage bill so that the stooges can collect more pay for 'saving' the Indian imbeciles money (of course it doesn't actually save them money, it just means they have to spend it later). It will soon be season ticket time and their ruinous selfish and short term policies are going to achieve another drastic fall in sales. They will come up with some sort of scheme to try and force existing ST holders to renew quickly before their summer transfer 'plans' unfold and everyone sees what the 'ambition' here is. Until then they will play the 'Ismael revolution' card as it is tried, tested and most importantly free. The problem they have is that this is the third time they are playing this in the space of 4 years and the first two times around their approach has cost us two good and popular managers. Even if, and this is highly unlikely, Ismael is as good as JDT and Eustace, they'll act to undermine him come January 2026 in any event. People are seeing through it now but the stooges don't have many other cards left to play. They didn't have many to start with, and are running out of options with many now recognising where the problem is and deciding they've had enough. Personally the thought of handing over my hard earned money again to support the stooges' wage and pension increases after they've destroyed our squad and promotion prospects makes precious little sense whichever way you look at it. -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
JHRover replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
The 'rebuild' line is only going to be spouted more and more and more over the coming 3-4 months as form hits disastrous levels and we slide down the Championship table. The stooges are going to need to come up with something somehow to try and stop a calamitous drop off in already poor season ticket sales. They have done everything they can to ensure sales are poor over the course of the last few years but will now try a few minor things to try and arrest that decline. We saw one yesterday with the 'safe standing' story. The cost of fitting a few hundred safe standing rails across the back corner of the BBE dressed up as investment in Ewood and listening to fans/trying to improve the atmosphere. It is pathetic. Most Championship clubs have had safe standing for years, in far larger numbers than our few hundred spaces. But it is a cheap gimmick to try to distract people from what is going on. We know that Rovers have deliberately run down the contracts of all senior players over the last few years. Deliberate. No attempt made to renew any contracts. This wanton reckless policy has left us in a position where it is inevitable that most of our senior players will either be out of contract/loan, coming into the last 12-24 months, looking elsewhere and wanting to move on. Therefore a huge turnover in personnel is necessary. They will dress this up as a good thing, desirable, exciting. Unfortunately with Nixon in overdrive every Sunday morning and the Football Manager laptop brigade speculating about who we are going to sign, people will delude themselves into thinking this rebuild is going to lead to a brighter future and a revolution in our approach/playing style. Been there, done that. It is a cost cutting measure, designed to trim the wage bill further and inevitably means we end up with youngsters, kids, and short term deals. Basically a modern version of the old Accy Stanley or Oyston's Blackpool, having to throw together a squad at the last minute every year. Ismael will probably have been told that the club is serious, has plans, will invest, will allow him to build something. It won't. They lie.- 1848 replies
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Safe standing at Ewood Park for 25/26 season
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
A ruse to distract the masses. And as usual a half-hearted low cost attempt of just an initial few hundred seats and then 'we'll see' about more later on. -
Jon Dahl Tomasson - Sweden coach
JHRover replied to Tom's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
He ended up here by accident due to the external intervention of Broughton, and very quickly both realised that what the club appears to be from the outside, what you are told when coming in, and what you find when you are through the door, are very different things, and it is unworkable under these owners. An opportunity dropped into our lap with JDT to become something and get somewhere, and our great wonderful leaders did their level best to destroy it, and did so in a little over a year. He was never the problem, he was an asset with the capabilities of taking this club up a level. Never forgive, never forget. They'll put on a performance via their stooges over the next 3-4 months as they gear up to earn their bonuses by hitting ST targets, they'll wheel Gestede out for some interviews, make promises on signings, the usual lot will be fooled by Nixon's Sunday rumours every week. It means nothing. The poison remains.- 9495 replies
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v Stoke City (a) - 12/3/2025, k/o 20.00
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Many of the players will have knowingly or subconsciously downed tools. For the first 2/3 of this season they worked their socks off, overcame the odds, turned what most expected to be a relegation battle this season into a play-off push, and clearly loved playing under Eustace who had crafted a well coached and well organised unit out of them. Whilst they - manager, staff, players - have gone about this season in terrific fashion, showing commitment, dedication, hard work to overcome the odds (odds that these owners have stacked against us to start with) the opposite can be said of the owners and board, who have taken every opportunity available to them this season to prevent a play-off push being sustained: An outright refusal to offer new terms to players who have given so much this season, who deserve new deals and to know where their futures lie. The end result is that circa 50% of our squad is due to leave in the next 10 weeks The remaining 50% 'lucky' enough to be under contract to 2026 or beyond will know from their agents and mates just what is going on and will be wanting to avoid a similar fate themselves, so will be looking towards the exit door asap The ownership and board have created the conditions for Eustace and his team to actively look to get out of our play-off push in February, preferring instead to gamble their careers and reputations on trying to keep Derby County out of League One. I cannot overstate just what an unprecedented and alarming move that was Despite all clearly not being well with Eustace for some time, no steps taken by the board to alleviate those issues, improve his deal, extend his terms or at least allow some reasonable funding into January to support him, this equates to active sabotage in my book - they were aware of issues and had multiple opportunities to head off trouble and instead did nothing, allowing it to unfold In one swoop demolishing the tight team spirit and bonds built up over the preceding 12 months at a critical time of the season A terribly bad transfer window, failing in every conceivable way to strengthen the team. The players will have seen those turning up at Brockhall and would know what was going on. Then appointing Ismael to come in with 10 games to go, upsetting the apple cart further. THEY have created this untenable situation. I don't blame the players. Would it be any different at any other club where the ownership and board knowingly and deliberately scupper and waste the team's efforts? The players probably naively believed that if they hauled us into contention in December then the owners would reward them with new deals and make an attempt at promotion. They were seriously mistaken. An easy mistake to make because at 99.9% of other professional organisations those in charge would want to be successful and improve/grow/get promoted/retain assets. Now that it is there for the avoidance of any doubt (it's actually happened 4 times now going back to Mowbray's days) the question is what next. A mass exodus of players dressed up under the banner of 'Ismael's revolution' in the summer is my guess. Aim of this not being to rebuild or strengthen but to slash costs further whilst deluding the paying people into thinking it is with progress in mind. Less and less people are falling for this I have noticed. -
v Stoke City (a) - 12/3/2025, k/o 20.00
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
All part of the plan. Anyone capable of getting a move elsewhere will be on to their agents pushing for it. Then Rovers can pretend they've offered them all new terms but the players are angling for moves elsewhere leaving poor old Rovers powerless to do anything other than sell the lot of them and replace with frees, all under the banner of giving Ismael the players he wants to get his plans off the ground. Unfortunately within a couple of weeks of this season ending there will be plenty in the fanbase subscribing to this scheme and going along with it. -
v Stoke City (a) - 12/3/2025, k/o 20.00
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
True, That's kind of the whole point and idea behind the play-off system. Most teams in the top half and even the upper bottom half will continue to be within 'striking distance' of the play-offs right up to the last few games of the season. It's what makes it so exciting for the neutral and keeps so many teams interested up to the end of the season. We've seen enough to say we are out of it. Players have, understandably, downed tools. If you are told no new contract offers by the club when sat in the top 6 it must be hard to continue to motivate yourself to fight for the cause. Of course the probability is this is deliberate from the hierarchy to demotivate and derail our campaign now that survival is secured and another round of cuts and sales is on the horizon. Pay increases are there to be earned. -
v Stoke City (a) - 12/3/2025, k/o 20.00
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Anyone need upsetting even more than they are already just think about how Waggott will be chuckling away to himself in his car on the way back down to Kent, job done for another year, no relegation, another round of cost cutting coming this summer, pissed off most of the players to the point where anyone with sense will push to leave, managed to successfully steer us away from top 6 contention again after deliberately derailing us (again) in January. Never mind, another year on the gravy train and potentially another pay hike to come! -
v Stoke City (a) - 12/3/2025, k/o 20.00
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
When the club forces the popular and overperforming manager out in February to bottom of the league Derby, once again sabotages our promotion hopes with a dismal January window, deliberately runs down the contracts of the players who put us in the top 6 and then appoints a strange and unimpressive character as manager Is it any wonder the players are downing tools? I'm not saying they should as they are paid professionals but apply the above to any other club and you'd probably get the same reaction as we have seen here since January. It is an inevitable result of the owners/boards actions (inactions). -
Only one step on from the grotesque half-hearted efforts under our lot to 'sponsor' the Riverside by plastering their logo along the ad boards at the top, now covered by grime and filth after 5 years without being cleaned or replaced so barely visible in parts.
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Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
JHRover replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
You make out like these were achievements. WBA were fresh out of the PL and armed with cash and a strong squad. Being in the top 6 for such a side is not particularly impressive, and they were on the slide having been top after the first few months. Watford is more difficult to judge given their turnover in managers and it is correct to point out that others like Wilder and Bilic have struggled there in recent seasons but again, I don't consider 9th for their squad to be anything to congratulate. -
Almost as big a basket case. Despite all the hullabaloo about him he at least turns up from time to time and acknowledges he owns a football club. Hell he even got Rohl to sign a new improved deal in the summer which our lot have forgotten the meaning of.
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Eustace will keep Derby up I'm sure, some of the Rovers lot are going to end up with egg all over their faces. If anything Cardiff and Derby winning only makes tomorrow that much more difficult. Stoke simply have to beat us looking at that table. We know how that usually goes.
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Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
JHRover replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Out of interest when is it early enough to judge him? 10 games? End of the season? Next season? Xmas? I think it is unlikely that he will be here by March 2026. Why? Well our record on managers outside of Mowbray and Bowyer (who got an audience in India) is very short. Berg/Appleton/Lambert/Coyle/JDT/Eustace - averaged what, well under a year each? Berg and Appleton about a month each, Lambert 6-7 months, Coyle 7 months, JDT 19 months but he was offering to leave after 12 and Eustace 12 months and he was offering to leave after earlier than that if reports of him applying for other jobs is true. So that's 6 managers going back now 13 years under Venky ownership none of whom last very long. The only exceptions those who got to go to India. Add into that mix that Ismael himself has an extremely short lifespan at clubs. 8 different teams managed in 10 years, never lasting more than 1 season at a club and an average of 26 games in charge. That would cause me concern if he was coming into a normal club, which we are certainly not. Combine all the above and I'd say it would be a miracle if he sees out a year or the 2025/26 season. When do you judge him during that time? Is he allowed to lose the next 10 because it isn't his squad or at some point in that time do you criticise? -
A momentous occasion tarnished by Venky occupation and their stooges who should be nowhere near the club. What should be an occasion to celebrate and savour undermined by the poisonous regime. I think people expecting the club to have planned very much at all are optimistic. I suspect at best we will get twitter videos from Dunny, Morten, Faz, Garner, Friedel, Bennett and a few others and then perhaps an overpriced 'dinner' event in the Premier Suite. That's the most they will do because it will be relatively easy to arrange and won't cost them anything. Anything else they will be hoping/expecting the fans themselves to come up with and arrange. A bit like when they expected crowdfunding to raise the cash to instal safe standing rails, they'll sit back and wait for fan groups to suggest ideas and then poo poo those that are going to cost anything or require any bold action. They'll dress this up as involving fan groups in important decisions but really it is just shifting the work away from those paid to do it.
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Realistic thoughts on the future
JHRover replied to Bbrovers2288's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
We don't do 'early bird' because we don't get them released early enough. If they are on sale before the end of this season I'll be very surprised and that leaves insufficient time in May/June/July to run a proper early bird process. The time for that is February to May. Your pricing would require a substantial reduction across the board. Have you seen or heard anything at Rovers in the last 10 years to think that they are going to slash prices? I haven't. What we will get is the old Waggott favourite of strings attached to an offer whereby if you commit 'early' e.g. within a few weeks of them being on sale and hand over your money in June then you'll get a £25 discount. The idea here is to force the regulars worried about losing their seats to buy early and then they are committed before the summer firesales and negligent recruitment gets underway and they can't then back out, -
Realistic thoughts on the future
JHRover replied to Bbrovers2288's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Why? How could they be worse than the current lot? I feel a need to remind you of a few facts as it seems that you are now reverting to the old 'but who would buy us' routine, of course potential buyers are not going to waste their time and play their hands going public about their ability/willingness to buy Rovers when they are up against a stubborn refusal to even speak about a sale. Would you go around putting offers on houses that weren't for sale or would you move when the 'For Sale' signs went up? Here's a quick list of clubs in England that have changed ownership/control in the last 10-15 years of Venky destruction of Rovers: Everton, Man Utd, Aston Villa (twice), Wolves, Newcastle, Leicester, Southampton (twice), Forest (twice), Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Bournemouth, Fulham Non-PL clubs: Burnley, Blackpool, Bolton (twice), Wigan (twice), Stockport, Salford, Wrexham, Port Vale, Burton, Chesterfield, Mansfield, Notts County, Sheffield Utd (twice), Sheffield Wednesday, Barnsley, Huddersfield (twice), Leeds (twice), Hull, Sunderland (twice), Norwich, Ipswich, MK Dons, Coventry, Birmingham (twice), West Brom, Swansea, Newport, Bristol Rovers, Swindon, Reading (soon to be twice), Wycombe (twice), QPR, Portsmouth, Gillingham, Carlisle, Morecambe, Accrington, Charlton (twice), Leyton Orient, Lincoln, Cambridge, Oxford (twice) I'm sure there are others I can't think of. Why do you, and others, think that new owners would avoid a Championship Blackburn Rovers, one promotion away from the PL, yet would get involved with all those other clubs? -
Valérien Ismaël: Blackburn Rovers Head Coach
JHRover replied to DE.'s topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I agree. I think things will pan out that way. I think we needed a wise old head who would be able to come in and put his arm around the players and get them 100% focused on the rest of the season and galvanise us. I think there will have been a lot of deeply unhappy and angry players in that dressing room after the unprecedented occurrence of a top 6 manager joining a club at the bottom mid-season (it isn't normal, despite what the club and media attempt to portray). Whilst Ismael has a reasonable CV and reasons for some optimism with his track record he just doesn't strike me as the sort who will do the above. I've read and heard things that he's probably the opposite of what Eustace was. I find it totally crackers that a bloke who has managed 8 clubs in his short career, never lasted more than a season and averaged about 20-odd games in charge is then handed a 3+ year deal to come here. The only logic I can imagine with it is that whatever else we were offering - pay, budgets, guarantees - were not forthcoming so we had to offer him a long deal to persuade him to accept it. I suspect that a large number of our players will have been looking elsewhere anyway due to the club's decision to run their contracts down, but with the events of the last 5-6 weeks and then if Ismael is very different to Eustace I think a few will have had enough. I'm at the point where I suspect that is precisely what they wanted when they appointed him - makes it easier to deliver their plans if there are players actively wanting out.