JHRover

No no no you haven't read the script. Joe Rothwell left because his wife wanted to live on the South Coast (since gone to Leeds and Rangers) JDT left to take the Sweden job (which he took ages after leaving here) Lenihan left even though we offered him a huge deal to stay (yeah right) Eustace left for family reasons and to save 30 minutes on his commute Brittain left despite us "imminently" agreeing terms on a new deal with him Travis is going to leave for 'life changing' money at Derby County None of the above anything at all to do with the approach of Rovers.

Birmingham and Wrexham have exploited their owners' connections abroad particularly in the USA and signed highly lucrative international sponsorship deals despite only being able to offer League One/Two football up until this year. Ambition. Thinking big. Not accepting your lot in life with a shrug of the shoulders. Contrast to this rotten regime, refusing to look beyond Darwen for sponsors or fans, not having a commercial director. 'We're a local small town club' bizarrely used as some sort of badge of honour yet hamstringing the club financially. These owners have done NOTHING in 15 years to secure the club advantageous sponsorship. Other than their own 'sponsorship' - forced to do it as a way of legitimately getting more money into the club (stickers on the shirts and filthy boards across the Riverside) there hasn't been a single sponsorship of any size or duration with Indian companies/firms. Zero effort or interest.

If its the difference between promotion and not, or relegation and survival, then its a price worth paying. Too often here the focus is on the individual - their cost, transfer fee, wages, scope for increasing in value The focus really needs to be on the team and giving it the experience, depth and quality to actually go and achieve something in the game rather than just existing with no purpose whilst rivals all overtake us.

We're getting to the point where you have to balance potential outgoings/incomings and the costs/benefits of those with the value of retaining Championship status. Even the most deluded and optimistic of supporters can surely see now that this isn't a good Championship squad and that it is going to be one almighty struggle this season. It always makes me wonder the thought process going on in some people's heads when they clamour for a player to be sold (or in this case be forced out) on the basis it 'makes financial sense' to sell now, get a million or two in (that won't be used to improve the squad, because even if they allowed a chunk of it to be spent on fees our wage 'model' prevents us from getting proven quality) and then a direct result of these sort of sales is potential relegation to League One and probably £10 million+ in revenue lost. There's still a lot of delusion around that we can just offload all these players, cut costs, sign equivalent or better quality and stay in the Championship (if you consider that to be some sort of achievement, I don't but the people running the club do). The penny will drop in the coming weeks only it will be too late when it does.

Yes I know what Elliott Jackson says. I've just pointed out that it seems unlikely to say the least that this board of 4 active directors has made that decision. That's what I suggest people do - ask questions and scratch beneath the surface rather than just accepting and repeating what other people say. I've seen a photo of a man sat next to Rudy Gestede on Tuesday. Who says it is Sreenivasa Rao? I've never seen him or a photo of him before. Maybe it could be Bob Coar, Gandhi Babu or Steve Waggot. One has admitted he has no involvement in decision making, one has never been seen or heard of in 14 years and the other was removed from the club 3 months ago. Some board of directors there.

Man, woman, plant pot, makes no difference because whatever their job title and whatever the PR spin they won't be CEO in practice and will be a stooge/shield for Venkys and their man in the shadows. Sadly I think you and plenty of others will line up and accept whatever they do next embracing it as a 'new era' but it won't be. Pasha can read the room and he will be on the hotline for a 6-12 month consultancy role to come in with a fancy title, suit and impressive talk for the next forum meeting, just once we've got the rest of these decent players out the door, that's much more urgent.

There is no board to make such a decision. Let's have a look at our 'board' of directors: Robert Coar, Gandhi Babu, Sreenivasa Rao, Steve Waggott Those are the only four active directors of the club, according to Companies House. Which one or more of that bunch do you reckon has interfered in a pre-match press conference and decided what questions can be asked/answered? Gestede / Pasha are not directors and therefore not board members, if they have made the decision it is a lie to say the board has.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/25394277.bolton-wanderers-18million-share-issue-ownership-group/ Nothing to see here, just Bolton's non billionaire owners injecting £18 million to keep them going and invest. I thought it was only the great and wonderful billionaires Venkys covering such losses and nobody else in the world could do that.

I'm not suggesting he resign or give up his job. Just put his foot down as a journalist and tell the club that he will ask the questions that his readers want to know about. If they are restricting the topics he can ask about then he can't do his job. I am pleased he is telling people that the club are restricting his questions rather than just playing along with it. Hopefully wakes a few more of the morons up who think this is normal.

Wonder if Jackson will still be praising the 'openness and honesty' of Ismael whilst at the same time being banned from asking questions about the most important topics at the club right now. If he had anything about him he'd walk out of the room and refuse to report on the topics Rovers want covering.

Like full on Soviet Union. Any topics the Regime isn't comfortable with are banned. Any comments at the Fans Forum they don't like simply omitted from the minutes. So much for Gestede and his 'communication' spiel. Sounds good but no real intention of delivering it.

The irony of it all that arguably our two best signings last summer were Batth (33 when he joined) and Weimann (32 when he joined), both on free transfers, yet out of them we got a rock and organiser in defence and 9 goals in 30 odd appearances from Weimann including vitally important strikes e.g. away at Burnley and home v Norwich (the club are quite happy to regularly post the video of his rocket at Turf Moor). This arbitrary and ridiculous approach of not signing over 30's or only giving them 1 year deals. Just madness in this league. No amount of stats and fancy talk from Gestede and other clipboard / laptop carriers will deliver better value for money than those two delivered last season.

They'll finish above us this season after being in League One last year and were in non-league a few years ago. They're doing it right, we're doing it wrong. They won't get busted with FFP either which proves that clubs getting relatively small gates and no parachute money can spend big at this level without issues.

I'm not going to forget that two of our summer signings were made from Vincent Tan's Belgian club. I don't believe in coincidences like that in football, much less where this gang are concerned. I'm sure in fullness of time more connections will emerge between Rudy and friendly faces elsewhere. He's here to make a name for himself by unearthing a gem or two, doing the Venky dirty work under the facade of a new project/era. He'll be sacrificed before next summer and another project starts. Next time it will be another 180 pivot to a British model and old school manager again.

Still not answering the question. Third or fourth time you're insisting that a true version of events has been given. How do you know that? If you can't answer that then stop insisting it is definitely the truth. It might not be.

You haven't answered my question. No surprises because you can't. The question was how do you know that Ismael has been open and honest about the situation? You don't. Nobody does other than him and the people he works for. Even he might not know whether the version of events he has been given by the Regime is accurate or not. It certainly wouldn't be the first time they have misled or lied to one of their employees to shore up their Regime. Its funny. You are a big fan of the 'Head Coach' model yet for some reason think that Ismael will have intricate knowledge of all contract negotiations, which isn't really what happens under a head coach model, where the board and D of F deal with that side of things. I bet he has no idea other than being told player x isn't signing or getting a new deal. I know what Jackson has reported. He's another lavishing praise on Ismael for 'honesty' - I'll ask again - how does he know he's being honest or more importantly even if he is that he's not been fed a load of tripe by his employers?

Perhaps JDT, via Broughton, was instructed that Travis was a 'problem' due to his 'high earner' status and that he would need removing from the team/squad to free up cash. The Ipswich scheme failed because they had little use for him when getting automatic promotion and then he came back just as someone else (Waggott apparently) had appointed Eustace who immediately recognised the value of him and made him central to his plans, together with bringing in other established Championship players. None of those things fit the 'model' the Regime have had in mind for the last 3-4 years so they were more than happy to get Eustace out, grab the compo and find a coach willing to oversee their plans.

Ismael didn't need to say that Travis has asked to leave. He could simply have batted off questions and limited his talk to the dismal defeat to Bradford. As I said earlier, he's either an idiot and said it without thinking of the impact it could have on the player and fanbase, or he's complicit in the Regime's cover-up operation which has been gaining a lot of momentum the last few days. The Regime knows that eyes are on them and pressure is building. Turning the focus on 'wantaway' players and feeding Jackson sob stories about 'lifechanging' offers from Derby all part of that

How do you know this? How can you, or anyone else (including Ismael) know that the information he has been given by the regime at Ewood is correct or honest? Answer is you don't. Nor does Elliott Jackson, It just sounds nice to believe that everyone and everything at Rovers is wonderful and honest and there's nothing untoward going on.

Agreed, we all have a decision to make at some point along this winding road which ends with a cliff-edge as to whether we can in good conscience continue to throw our money, time and energy into such an organisation. A limited, honest poor, struggling club, poor standard of football, lower leagues I can accept. What I cannot accept is a lack of effort, pride, lies, disgraceful mismanagement and conduct. Some continue to live in la la land but for me the way this regime has treated the fans, its staff, players, the women's team, Eustace, JDT, the signings that we pulled the plug on at the 11th hour - all abhorrent shameful episodes presided over by charlatans of the highest order

Obviously the first half of last season he and his teammates were loving life doing well at the top end of the league and playing under a manager they gave everything for and had galvanised the club in the space of a few months, The time for new contracts was then and had that been done I'm sure that most of Travis, Batth, Weimann, Brittain and Dolan would have signed up and we would have secured our foundations for years to come, perhaps even more importantly it would probably have persuaded Eustace and his team to stick around and keep going. But the people at the top of this club - with their questionable links, backgrounds and no reason to believe any of them have a clue about running football clubs - know better. This is what makes it even more difficult to accept - that we had what we needed in the palm of our hand and they have dismantled it in 6 short months for no real reason.

He won't be getting £30k a week at Derby or any other Championship club. It is a made up figure designed to portray Rovers as powerless in this scenario and unable to compete. He -might- double his basic pay from £10k to £20k a week at a push. When he signed his deal he was up and coming and he's since amassed over 200 games in this league and been our captain for 4 years so I'd say a hefty wage rise is a reasonable expectation Remember - It is Rovers not operating or behaving as an established Championship club that is the issue here, not everyone else behaving unreasonably. If we can't or won't pay the going rate then we will end up in a lower division. Quite simple really. If you are comfortable with that then enjoy it, I won't be.

Comedy stuff from Jackson again today. So Travis wants to do Rovers a favour by going now rather than next summer so that we receive a fee? Jackson reckons Ismael is open, honest and 'an open book' - says who? Who gives Ismael his information? That's right, the liars upstairs. Unsurprisingly that ridiculous claim/admission from Ismael - unnecessary and unprompted - has gone down badly with Travis - it has made his future untenable which is EXACTLY what the the regime have wanted - they want him gone and they want the blame piling on the player and Derby and not themselves. I am however glad that Jackson is acknowledging for the first time that the 'party line' from Rovers - that they've made him a good offer to commit - might not actually be the truth and that other parties suggest there has never been a formal offer made (which is what I believe and the evidence seems to suggest). Jackson thinks that the above becomes 'a debate over semantics' - I disagree. If the truth of the matter is - as I suspect - that the player hasn't even been given a proper offer to stay - then this needs making clear to the paying public and the deluded brigade need to swallow their medicine and learn their lessons not to trust a word this regime comes out with ever again. The money offered by Derby described as 'life changing' by both sides - if you want a sentence that displays what these people have done to this club then there it is. Of course this suits Rovers again because they can make out like we were never in any position to keep him up against such 'resources' (actually Derby aren't wealthy and have brought in less than we have in the last 3-4 years). That is a lie because they could have made offers during last season and didn't, which is why Travis confirmed this publicly in March and why Eustace walked out. Ismael is either an idiot or is complicit in the shenanigans for his comments after the last two games.

Think of the money being saved. Then it makes total sense.

Well last year we had more. So perhaps you answer first, did we have too many last season?