For all of JDT’s bravery and honesty in calling out/alluding to the owners, Waggot, Suhail’s carrying on he repeatedly sets up a team that folds like a deck chair and for that he does need to be taken to task. It’s not like we’ve had an out of character bad game today following a tumultuous week. We’ve been dog shit since December playing football that an u9 team could read where the next pass is going. in some ways the disaster of the pitch is letting Jon off lightly for what an (avoidable) shit show we are on it

Agreed, he also claimed a couple of low shot/crosses that Leo would have palmed out into the middle of the 6 yard box.

JRC was bloody awful today, Szmodics was garbage first half and then spent the second doing some ‘show pressing’ i.e. wasting energy looking busy before seemingly spitting his dummy out and going off injured. S Wharton is an honest servant but by Christ how he’s made it to the championship being so one footed is beyond me. The amount of trouble we play ourselves into as he has to shift on to his left or play backward because he can’t play off his right is criminal.

Strange how Ian Silvester who has been involved in correctly registering players here for years has all of a sudden forgotten how to do the paperwork. Presuming Waggot is involved in all transfers at previous clubs, he has presided over in excess of 100 transfers in his time as CEO at different clubs. How many of them were subject to appeal previously………

But we’ve entered into a contract with Orlando to pay his wages presumably. The fact we can’t register matters not to them, they’d be well within their rights to demand we pay him until the end of the season you’d have thought

No blame on JDT for the transfer debacle but by Christ he has to take some for the performance. We were truly awful, watching us play through the middle into the traps they’d set was comical. They opened a trick passing lane constantly inviting Tronstad (who was awful), Moran and JRC into trying to play through, as soon as they played the ball they stepped across and played in Armstrong or Chair constantly. It was laughable how predictable and pedestrian we were. About as much incision as a butter knife

Looked like he threw a paddy, was visibly angry and looked like he aimed a verbal volley at N05.

At what point does the behaviour of Waggot, Suhail etc become fraudulent. signing/agreeing and announcing players and what would seem purposeful form failure is a practise that would be open to legal challenge surely. Orlando and the player would be due damages you’d think

If JDT is wanting to let rip then he handled the press conference issue really badly. Surely you kill them with kindness and then let rip when they’re not expecting it.

Rooney would be a very 2012 Venky’s appointment

You're missing out the key part of the sentence, "in the media". The nationals were hammering him after his first few games.

Ditto

I didn’t say he hasn’t, what I said was the media scrutiny was very intense. Gordon no doubt had experienced that at Everton so was somewhat prepared for it. Adam hasn’t experienced intense scrutiny From the wider media thus far. He’s flown under the radar in the wider football world of casual and lad bible readers, and I think the move to CP allows him to continue to do so.

Not looked into what Flecks injuries are but I’m going to guess muscular, which could be a sign the intensity of the Prem is too much. All conjecture on my part, not knowing his injury history but if they’re muscular you’d hope he’s signed being currently fit to play and that the less intense pace (in comparison) of the championship might help him. who knows, if he stays fit I think he’s a good addition.

The more I think about it the more I think CP is a very shrewd move for Adam. They’ve got a brilliant recent record of trusting young players in the X1 and giving them a platform to be expressive. The move also attracts much less scrutiny and pressure than say moving to a Newcastle, admittedly different fees but Gordon had a torrid time in the media following his move. Adam won’t suffer that I don’t expect, he can go about his business and continue to develop while testing himself in one of the toughest/best leagues in the world. I think the fee is maybe 5ml short of what I’d hoped/expected (25ml +) but then we’ve obviously found ourselves in a position where we’re begging from Peter to pay Paul

I’m well chuffed with Fleck, the midfield has been crying out for more experience and protection. He brings both in spades and a bit of much needed bite to boot. I’m interested to see how the shape looks over the next few games. 4-2-3-1 seems the most obvious with Fleck and Tronstad as the 2. Although I wonder if he seems Garret sitting with Tronstad and Fleck as the 3 giving extra protection in the advanced 3. With Dolan and Sam returning there is a lot of competition for forward places now, given that Sammie is a guaranteed starter. When Hedges comes back it could be really tight. Shame Leonard didn’t get a loan as I can now see him spending a lot of time in the 23’s or getting 5 mins at the end of a game which won’t aid his development

He’s hardly going to open up with “they’re a rank average 12-15th in the table every year but give me an opportunity to play games and make a big step up” is he

He was on a season long loan at Liege, seems weird they'd recall him and not have anything lined up.

yep, it would be highly unlikely and totally out of step with how transfers are structured for the one thing that gets paid upfront is the loyalty bonus of the person agreeing to leave......... (again no blame toward Adam but he is signing a contract to leave)

To be fair the vast majority of meltdown and drama was on here, we have no idea what it actually looked like or what the problems were/weren't within the inner machinations of the club! History would point to it being incompetence/V's interference or a combination of both but we just don't know

To be fair he looks in good nick, bet he'd do a job still

Being taken the piss out of by a fan of a ‘soccer’ franchise. New depths plumbed

Ok, that makes more sense

The mid flight thing doesn't really add up, considering it's usually pretty difficult to contact people mid flight.

whoa whoa whoa, don't go throwing around a reasonable explanation, we want wild speculation and hystrionics!