Mashed Potatoes

Whoever is responsible for recruitment if any is going to have to operate within the FFP rules which could be very challenging.

No I won't be watching the game - although like you I have been a supporter since the mid 1960s. Obviously you are entitled to decide for yourself how you spend your time and money. All managers can get things wrong - if we decided not to go to games when that was happening there would be an awful lot of fallow periods of support. I have never believed that the players don't give 100 per cent. For every player who makes it to our sort of level there will have been hundreds who were having trials as schoolboys. How likely does it seem that the tiny percentage who make it are by nature inclined not to be trying their hardest ?

If you were not happy with a record breaking season I doubt you will ever be satisfied

That seems harsh to me. Two seasons ago we achieved club records for the number of wins and points.

Both players and manager will have contractual clauses for promotion bonuses and higher salaries in the Premier League so I don't think this is a correct analysis at all.

There are 24 teams in the division and in this table we are 11th. How s that bottom half .

We are 3 points off the playoffs and 15 points clear of the bottom 3 - which does paint a rather different picture

For me it would be a left back and a natural wide player with pace ahead of the keeper - Walton looks ok to me. I haven't got a clue what players fit the bill.

Mid table is not an objective for me either but I don't think it is a disaster if things are getting better - albeit slowly. Agree with you about managers . Do you think the people who gave us Steve Kean, Owen Coyle , Henning Berg etc are going to pick the right one ?

I am not always right any more than anyone else - I'm expressing an opinion

Thanks for your reply - I am having to deal with rather a lot of them in the last hour or so ! I understand what you are saying about the positions of players - what I am looking at is our overall rate of points per game which if sustained will mean we finish comfortable mid table. I don't think that's a sacking offence especially bearing in mind that the replacement could be a great deal worse. I still believe that given the owners track record the best bet is to stick with Mowbray and hope that some of the young players coming through turn out well.

You do realise that if they are sacked their contracts get paid up so they could just sit in their armchairs if they wished ? Therefore what you are suggesting looks not right to me.

I don't think it is the case that we have not made some progress this season; our defensive record and points per game return are better than last year - although I appreciate that supporters would have wanted the improvement to be greater. I think the problem with "roll the dice" is that these owners are much more likely to roll a pair of 1s than 6s.

No

I'm disappointed with what's happened in the last week but won't be resorting to personal abuse against anyone, be they players, manager or other posters on here. What I really think is the same as a few weeks ago; the manager is better than most posters here think because he is dealing with clueless owners for whom all previous managers have struggled. I don't argue for him to be fired because I think there is a significant likelihood of a vastly inferior manager being appointed and I don't think we will be relegated under Mowbray. I think it is perfectly reasonable to ask those who advocate Mowbray's firing to say who realistically would want the job here.

And in comes who ?

Aren't we the team in the division with the highest number of goals in the first 15 minutes ?

What reason could he possibly have to prefer being in mid table rather than top 6 ?

Who do you want to come in (realistically) ?

No you won't - but I don't come over all silly because we have had a bad day - we have taken 21 points from the last 11 games i think

Supporting the team ?

The owners way of doing things and, based on some posters on here, some supporters' unrealistic expectations.

Wouldn't disagree with any of that. Of course we can't be sure how things will work out unless he gets to play; he's marginal at the moment as to whether he's a plus or a minus for the first team .

Yes, and results is why so many managers are careful, or reluctant, to bring young players in to the first team. If they don't, then of course they receive criticism for that as well. I'm not trying to wind anybody up - if you think those who have labelled Tony Mowbray a "coward" or "not a nice person" are not haters how would you describe them ?

If Mowbray did that and results suffered as a result the haters would be out in force on here demanding he got the sack