Deliberately.

I don't think we'll win another game all year. Now what odds would you get on that?

That is absolutely beyond naive.

Diving should be a straight red and a ten game ban. It would stop in a week.

It wasn't a fuck up. It was done deliberately.

That's the thing though, the owners don't want us to stay up.

They won't be that cheap.

Good business there Rovers. Sell our best player for at least half of his actual worth and reinvest absolutely nothing. Almost as though they are trying to deliberately get us relegated.....

Fucking useless.

Don't bother, he doesn't.

It's his gesturing to the fans and allowing the players to do the same that puts him in the kean and coyle category. The squad has been stripped bare, deliberately, so nobody is expecting a ten game winning streak but coming in with his "no excuses" and chin up gestures to the fans has put him in the firing line. We've all seen this before, it's not the totally inept manager or the owners decimation of the entire club or the selling off every decent player on the cheap with no reinvestment or the absolutely piss weak players that are left or the toxic atmosphere around the whole club from above. No no, it's the fans that are to blame. The loyal fans that spend their hard earned money to go to watch the team week in week out. It's them and their big meanie boos and negative chants demanding some shred of professionalism. They are to blame for all of this. So yes, based on the stall useless has set out in this regard, he is of the kean and coyle variety. Yet another one under venkys.

If you can't afford good ai just don't bother.

Two wrongs don't make a right chaddy. Andy Holt has once again showed everyone that he is a cock womble that can't handle the slightest dent to his massive ego. I'm amazed a club that size managed to be able to find a space that could contain all three of their ego's at once. What they do now will be crucial as Stanley need to recruit well and stay in the league. There's no doubt that they are where they are because of John what odds will you give me on that Coleman. He deserves to be treated with absolute respect by that club. In short, Andy Holt - total fucking dick head.

Why? He did what anyone with any sense of pride and ambition would do and got the fuck away from this club at the first opportunity.

The guy is a loser. Never sets up to win. Is happy to just not get beat against Plymouth Argyle for fuck sake. First thing he does is come in and make sly digs at the previous head coach. You know, the guy who's achieved more under this ownership than anybody else. The guy who actually had a sense of pride and ambition. Well he hasn't won a single game yet and we've played some of the shittest teams we've played all year. If there's no excuse then why haven't we won? We all know the squad we have is absolutely gash and we know where the blame lies for our relegation. That doesn't change the fact this guy isn't good enough and the shit he's been talking tells me he's just a desperate yes man looking for an easy job. Him and the players with their gestures to the fans can all fuck right off. Show us some fucking respect.

That's not true though is it, they've never tried to breathe life into the club. All they've ever done is suffocate it.

Souness would have another heart attack dealing with that bunch of soft twats. Crying about getting a few boos from the crowd. Fuck off you baby and grow some fucking bollocks.

Why are you speaking so highly of him?

Civil unrest is not only justified but necessary.

Fuck off useless. Just add him to the list of shit cunts we've had in the dugout over the venkys era. He belongs right there next to coyle.

Those players can fuck right off. I had given them a lot of slack in all of this given the off field carnage but I've had enough now. They are an absolute disgrace to the club. They are the weakest and shittest squad I have ever seen at this club. Now I see it's the fans fault that they are shit. Fuck off you bunch of soft cunts. I have no time for them at all and their weak as piss cowardly performances and their crybaby antics. The reason we lose so many games, can't come back from a goal down and are generally shit at every aspect of the game is down to the shit cowardly weak players we have. Fuck the lot of them. They aren't deserving of wearing our colours.

I never actually said that they were running a betting scam. It's certainly a possibility, and is a really good way to move around illicit finance. Nothing has ever been quite right with them since the day they arrived. There's an explanation for everything that happens but every single time there's this 5-10% that just doesn't seem right. Like when people keep saying it's just incompetence or disinterest. I am not denying that the Raos are incredibly thick and ignorant or that they don't really give a fuck about this club but there are always things that cantradict that. They are totally incompetent yet have managed to build a multi billion dollar business. If they ran anything else as bad as Rovers they wouldn't have two pennies to rub together. They are totally disinterested yet they constantly meddle in club matters, particularly transfers, and anything that costs more than 50p has to be signed off by them. They've been here for 14 years and not once have they got anything right. Everything they do is to the club's detriment and we're heading towards a second deliberate relegation. I don't know exactly what they're up to or what their motivations are but there have always been rumours and speculation about them being up to now good. They're now under investigation for financial fraud. That to me says that it wasn't all just crazy conspiracy theories and there could well be some meat on the bones of those accusations.

Little and often. Someone posted something on here a while back about money laundering in sports and football in particular. Venkys ticked a lot of boxes. Now they're under investigation for financial corruption. I'll let you form your own conclusions.

Top post. The way I see it is the problems are systemic through the whole game. Owners should be subject to fit and proper testing every year and the legislation needs changing to allow a 50+1 rule. Not perfect but a damn sight better than what we have now. I think the only way forward is for mass protests at all clubs in similar situations to us, getting games called off and forcing action to be taken. This needs to be widespread and sustained week after week. As for anyone who supports venkys in any way, they are not nor have they ever been Rovers fans.

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