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If you don't have a specific figure In mind, then surely you can't really have an opinion on the final figure, whatever it is.

I'm not fixated on anything, it seems a good example to me. I suppose the question is, how much do you think we should have got for him?

That a smaller fee usually means a higher sell on, and vice versa.

It wasn't less than £10 million. There's not a chance anyone AT THE TIME expected us to get anywhere near that amount.

It's 10%higher than Bellingham's when he left Birmingham.

It isn't really difficult to fathom, the lower the fee, the higher the sell on and vice versa. I don't know what's so bizarre in waiting until the final amount until forming an opinion. With Raya, some of the criticism was both premature and way off the mark.

Forgotten all about him. I do remember Raya wasn't getting a chance until Mowbray picked him.

Thought it was Mowbray who gave him his chance?

Not one Rovers fan thought we'd get anywhere near £10 million for Raya. Bellingham was a higher fee when he left Brum, but only a 5% sell on.

But nobody knows how much we'll end up with? Same with Raya, all the complaints but we ended up with more than expected. Maybe wait and see ?

And yet, the Adam Wharton thread is a 139 page argument about how much we got/will get/should have got for him.

So do I but come on, the ball's past him in a flash, whoever I'm blaming, It isn't Pears.

Don't know why you use the word aligned with such sarcasm,it's the most important thing. As for what success looks like, promotion has to be the ultimate aim. Whatever success looks like to different people,it definitely won't happen with any coach unless he's on board with what's happening recruitment wise.

Good,it won't succeed otherwise.

He, or anyone else, had no chance.

Just thought we made a team in 5th look poor on their own patch. Twine hardly got a kick,they created very little, just a pity the win was at such a cost.

Thought we took it to Bristol first half and could have had more than one, sat back second half and defended well,hardly gave them a sniff. Even the 10 minutes extra were seen out comfortably.

You'd expect Nigeria to go deep in the competition as well.

To me it's pointless getting rid of him cos whoever Gestede appoints won't be wanted. I'm prepared to see how we go. For now at least there's no doubt the players are with him.

I've no idea what he was thinking. Any manager needs to adapt to losing any player, would City play the same without Haaland? Would any win without Haaland mean that Pep would have stumbled upon a way of playing ? The signing of De Neve and Alebiosu would suggest that wing backs were always on the cards. The return of Wharton will also have made it more of a possibility. To win the last 3 under the circumstances to me says more about Ismael's footballing acumen than luck.

No idea, does it matter? Was he going to change it anyway? I'm not bothered either way to be honest, it's turned out well up to now.

Ismael goes back to the well for one last time before the international break.MIght we see Cantwell make a surprise return ?

Not keen on the "stumbled" opinion to be honest. Kevin Gallagher said the same about Mowbray when we went on a good run, rather than hold his hand up give credit where it was due. It's like putting a win down to luck.

Rovers Co commentator singled Hedges out for praise, rightly so.

Didn't think we looked out on our feet at any point really, I feared the worst when Armstrong came on but we played out the last half hour comfortably.