bluebruce

Alright, but you rate quite a few of Preston's youth lads. They don't have an u23s so let me rephrase so we can compare - do you rate any of our u18s? The current u18s and previous ones currently in the u23s have pretty much all performed at a higher level than the Preston kids. Unless you think our youth teams are just very well organised/managed? Which I'm also expecting you'll say no to.

Do you rate any of our u23s?

You would have the same problem spending hours using the eyes of your scouts to get reports. The problem you're describing isn't the way in which reports are accumulated (which will definitely be from data AND scouts btw) but rather the shambolic and lethargic way in which we do business in general these days.

It will also still be the end of the season next week. Feasibly, anything up til say preseason could be end of the season. But I'm sure they got duff info. He's going nowhere yet.

It's not remotely harsh. I'm not criticising him. He's a legend to me and always has been. I'm just saying how I, and clearly others judging by replies quoting me, have seen the change. I never said he spoke of us with disrespect, but he was in the past less glowing than would have normally been expected. As I outlined, I can see why. I'm glad it has healed and he now sees the club with, as Nelsen put it, with 'genuine, uncomplicated fondness'. That rumour sounds extremely unlikely. We were flush with Jack's cash and had no need of money from a departing player who had mostly earned a fraction of Jack's cash. Sounds made up tbh.

Of course he wasn't interested, it's obvious the manager didn't rate him. I wouldn't have been interested either. It was insulting that he was restricted to the ressies given our other options.

Chapman has been on the books of Championship clubs his whole career. With a few League One loans where a combination of incompetent management (in our case at least) and injury have hamstrung him. He was also very young for his first loans. How good they both were at age 19 or whatever isn't really relevant anymore. Apart from saying he is injury prone, which is legitimate to point to as a disadvantage, amount of games is hardly a fair comparison. (Disclaimer, I don't know the other lad at all, he could be class, just saying games played isn't a fair comparison considering Chapman's situation, other than to observe injury issues)

Wow, that surprises me. Tbh, putting on my neutral specs, I can't agree we were the second best ever Prem winning team, but it's great to see we meant that much to him. Our relationship with Al since he left has been complicated. It hurt us so hard when he left, and I think it hurt him when some fans booed him on his return. I think that stung him for a long time and he never seemed to have much good to say about us, at least not as you'd expect with his best years being here. I think it may have changed when we named that street after him tbh. I think that made him realise he was still cherished here by most, and since then he has been more glowing about us in public. That's how I've observed it happening anyway

Hard to produce something when you pretty much never play. Not producing hasn't stopped numerous other players from being regulars either.

He would cost compo. Due to his age and having been offered a new deal. Given what he cost us, I'd imagine you're looking at Championship clubs only and he would be a risk to pay for at this level. We will see what happens.

That hasn't been decided yet.

Unless it has a fairly low release clause of course...

Armstrong's lack of football intelligence isn't anywhere near as severe as Rhodes' lack of pace was. And in the Prem I'd say a lack of pace is seen as a bigger issue than a lack of intelligence.

If it's Adam Armstrong we are laughing 🤣

Unfortunately the club also thought Hoilett was going to sign a new deal any second. For months. Then we know what happened.

His agent's son? I thought it was just his friend's son. Which is bad enough.

Any new Armstrong deal will presumably contain a release clause, no higher than 25 mill in a best case scenario. More than we would get now, but could still end up triggered. I see the logic in loaning Pears out for experience, but I don't see the logic in making a 4th keeper signing in two summers without selling any of them. I hope if this happens our replacement keeper is either a loan or a one-year deal for some old experienced head.

Why would he be a no brainer? Have you seen a fair bit of him? What kind of player is he?

Thanks, wasn't clear from Sharpe's article whether he was out of contract, which I initially wrote, or just turned one down but still had a year or two left. I imagine you're right that if he turns 24 before 30th June he would be completely free (apart from signing on, agent fee and wages obviously). It doesn't inspire, like Sparks said, that we might shop twice from the same midtable League One side, who already had two (Pickering and Ng) players move up to the Championship. He could be a good un for all I know, but how many Championship level players can one midtable League One side possibly have on their books?

A few players suggested for midfield at the bottom of this article: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/19319614.blackburn-rovers-midfield-transfer-plans-focus-creativity/ Ryan Gauld, already mentioned but described here as having been 'offered' to us. Dylan Levitt, Man U youth player. Cameron Branagan from Oxford, described as not coming cheap. Ryan Wintle, from Crewe, turned down a new deal from them. The poncily named Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall, decent Leicester player who was at Luton on loan last season. Sharpe might know things he can't let on, but the only one of these he is presenting as tangible is Gauld. The rest sound like suggestions.

Sadly that would suit Mowbray's laborious slow passing game down to the ground. Why counter attack with pace and intent when you can win the possession stat?

Please don't play the 'not really supporters' card. It's divided the fanbase when used from either angle (by those going and by those boycotting), and quite frankly it just isn't your business to tell anyone else whether they're a true supporter. You don't know their history, their passion, how much time and money they spend or have spent on the club, their motivations, or anything about them.

The problem is, if you buy individual tickets instead, you're actually giving the club more money. Which is probably all the wanking lube Waggott needs to be in support of it too.

I think a meltdown is over selling it, but yes, every summer we have people complaining because some other clubs have signed players of varied calibre and we haven't yet. I find it a bit silly when it's this early on, unless we've missed a player of real quality or value. It tends to be the window drags on with us doing bugger all until the point where it does become a valid criticism.

I think this sentiment will pop up quite a few times in this thread yet, and understandably so. But many of us can't help but want to talk about the ins and outs regardless.