Mattyblue

But like when we had two top strikers at this level in Rhodes and Gestede… and still ended up nowhere.

Of course he is, very capable manager at this level and he has that reputation in the game. Always made me laugh when plenty on here tried to make out that Rovers was his meal ticket and he’d never get a gig again in the Championship.

And that’s a fair assumption to make, take Rooney’s shocking spell out and they wouldn’t have been close.

Nope bad luck to him. Passed down to me just like it has in my family generation after generation - just like that dad should’ve done.

About three months apart, I’ll always remember the Arsenal game as I went on a protest pre match and got an earful for a load around m as I took my seat - ‘just get behind ‘em’ FFS’ Needless to say most of said fans have long disappeared…

To be fair that’s more in depth knowledge than most journos cobble together in the national press.

Yep, you can’t keep going to the well on relegation and bouncing back. Look at Norwich and Watford, perennial yo-yo clubs - Watford have now lost their parachutes and every chance Norwich will have by the end of the month too and then you are back with the herd. Keep turning over your squads, get stuck with demotivated high earners, some poor signings and before you know it, it’s gone as per Hudds, Stoke and many others.

Your first example, fair enough, that’s what happens when you get out of the habit. The second one - shame on them.

17 points in 16 games, that is a relegation points tally extrapolated. So forget ‘x wins’, ‘x defeats’, ‘x clean sheets’, ‘couldn’t win at home’. It’s all about points however you get them, home wins, away wins, nicking 1-0s or whatever, who cares and that point tally generally isn’t enough to stay up, never mind leading to having a decent season. However, his job was to keep us up - he did, in tough circumstances as always when you come in mid season to a struggling team and you want to play in a vastly different way. Some silly hyperbole about how he’s been ‘superb’, as is the he’s ’almost Kean now’ nonsense. So yes, he does get a fresh start from me, but it is no coincidence that all his wins came away, that’s just how he set up the team - with no Sammie going forward and back on 0 points , he will have to fundamentally change his approach to home games, and perhaps he will as the means to end that was his role this season is put to bed (and thank feck it is).

Leeds games are seldom bore fests.

Those three wins in that manner being the three to do it does seem random and implausible… if the wins had been, say, home games against Millwall, Plymouth and 10 man Cov, perfectly plausible.

Most boycotting began a decade plus ago and the vast majority of those fans are now long gone. If ST numbers fall further this summer, the non renewing fan won’t be seeing it as a boycott, they’ll have just had enough of a shambolic football club charging them top dollar for a poor product… and that’s fair enough - their cash, their time, their blood pressure.

Has Longers forgot his password?

Remember when Pick hoped someone would break his legs?

Shite season, no question - but what a way to end. Presumably they had the prices set up and ready to go for both outcomes - so get the ST on sale, tonight and tap into the buzz… they won’t, presumably we’ll see them at some point in June.

It’s on the shirt sleeve, it sponsors the academy teams and it’s all over the ground already, so it would make any difference to me… and surely it’s a way of those ‘that never refuse a cheque’ to put more into the club.

So why isn’t Venky’s the title sponsor then? Like Etihad at City or bet365 at Stoke?

So like roverandout said you were happy for him to leave, mid season, with the team doing perfectly fine… worked out well since, hasn’t it.

Bloody hell Paul if we get a post as downbeat as that from you then we really are heading for the abyss. 😔

He did, ‘Well, I’ve heard he wanted a job in the Middle East’ he kept banging on about.

One home win since mid December, only one on a Saturday between October and the end - must be one of our worst ever home campaigns… looking forward for when they eventually decide to put STs on sale; ‘forget about our neighbours doing them for £200-£300, roll up roll up for more of the same for £400-£500+!’

That Scott must be some player at £25million, because people are telling me on here that AW wasn’t a steal for Palace at £18million.

‘Only won x’, ‘only lost x’, ‘6 games conceding x’’. Only one stat matters, points - and he hasn’t got them, not even averaged a point a game.

“I don't think we will be celebrating if we stay up. At the start of the season, we wanted to be in and around the play-offs. "If we go and win, brilliant. But we won't be celebrating because we know, as a group of players, we are miles better than what we have shown this season. "We have to stay in the league. When we came in for pre-season, we wanted to be fighting at the other end, trying to get in the Premier League. Best have a word with your gaffer, Hayden.

“Venky’s, I salute your courage, your strength, your indefatigability”