Mattyblue

Think you’re right… had to read it a couple of times though! 👏 Swag, takes some doing to make such a convoluted mess.

It was 6,995, the 7,300 was quoted by Waggott in November’s FF meeting and he was including the half STs that had been sold to date. So yes 6,995 full, 8,500 including half STs

He got rid of A+ , A was kept, though they did stop using Cat A too in the run in (I.è Blackpool, Stoke and AFCB all could have been made ‘A’ and weren’t) to help boost walk ons,

6,995 full STs as per FF minutes, not 7,300. So selling a mighty 7,082 thus far is therefore a success in Waggott’s cynical mind (ignoring the fact we had 8,500 ST holders at the end of the season).

It depends who we play, if it’s any side that will fetch 2k+ away support then it’s obviously going to be £30+ Cat A pricing.

@goozburger We sold just under 7,000 full ST/ according to Waggott himself in last September’s Fans Forum. Final tally 8,500 including half STs according to April’s fans forum September 2021 FF minutes: April 2022 minutes:

Calling JDT a ‘shit appointment’ (nobody has by the way) when there is absolutely no evidence to say that - negative, definitely. Criticising poor ST sales, as it will impact the team, the budget, the atmosphere, and outlining what they should’ve done instead - not negative.

Presume that’s a gag, but I’d like anybody to outline how my posts are ever ‘negative’ about Blackburn Rovers? Some of the clowns running it, certainly, but I only ever post from a standpoint of devotion to the club and what is best for it, and how it can improve; a very ‘positive’ mindset.

Hands up to being one of the main culprits on that score! On the appointments I’ve not seen such positivity on here for a looonngg time. Perhaps the mods could move the important but not particularly relevant to this thread ticket discussions to the ST thread?

Yep all my away game crew panic bought membership due to Fleetwood FOMO (imagine thinking that a decade ago!), got bugger all else out of it!

Pretty much the only club with more ridiculous prices than us… their sales are reportedly also well down, funny that!

Didn’t we try this with the 1875 club? Died on its arse not long after we left L1.

Yes I see. Agreed that throwing £30 million a year down the toilet year after year means nowt to them. The general state of the commercial operation is testament to revenue generating being left to wither on the vine as the millions roll in from Pune to plug gaping holes in incomings… However, Waggott is still supposedly judged on short term revenue targets (that he always misses), which is a big reason we see these outrageous ticket prices and crowds thus falling year on year, he therefore has no motivation to introduce enticing pricing that can get folk back in the tent and build back a fanbase long term. As always noting ever adds up in Venky World.

Yes, as I’m talking bums on seats, attendances etc. Apologies if we are at cross purposes, what’s your point?

They simply aren’t ’irrelevant’, as last season showed. If we’d had more ST holders crowds would have been higher when we sat second. ’Home straight’ I agree we would as that is a different issue, as you are getting loads of floating fans coming out the woodwork in a promotion run in that you wouldn’t see for a game, in say, February. That’s the case everywhere.

That’s true, but we also need robust ST sales as a base. Look at last season, walk ons doubled as we sat near the top, but as we now only have a very small number of ST holders, crowds still struggled to get over 13/14k, yes that’s better than the 10k earlier in the season, but not good enough for team second in the league. Now if we sell c10k STs and then charge up the league, that’s when you see big c17/18k crowds on a regular basis. So ST sales are important.

We’ve had a spike since JDT, so thankfully the absolutely horrendous sales of this time last week have been improved on, thank God. However, Bolton, Burnley, PNE have all sold c12/13k. We had sold just over 7k on Friday (our joint lowest sales at this stage for 30+ years, level with last season’s disastrous sales). So don’t come on here giving it the big ‘un if you haven’t even bothered to check the figures. Unfortunately we won’t be ‘selling the most in many years’ and will be selling less than all three of those clubs. Something I never thought I’d type and that is on the pathetic ‘leadership’ that you now seem to have no issue with post a few brews in a certain office.

You’d think so, it’s a relentlessly professional set up at Citeh.

No, it’s not wise, but that’s a different issue. More fool VK if he tries to integrate too many academy loanees. It’s a league that takes no prisoners and some of these lads will be found wanting on the physical side, there ain’t many Harvey Elliotts at 17/18.

Why would a young player who’s spent his career cocooned in an academy like City’s have an opinion either way on the merits of Burnley v Watford v Norwich? They’ll go where they are told and City will be pushing on an open door with these lads anyway with Kompany there.

I’m intrigued with the football side, certainly looks promising, but of course the proof of the pudding will be in the eating. A DoF and a title winning, CL playing head coach is a new direction and whatever happens it’s worth the gamble for a side that had got very stale. Green shoots? Definitely. However, the commercial side is in a bigger mess as ever. Waggott has had four years at it, and failed badly. So that’s another area where we desperately need a new broom, and I’ve no idea why he hasn’t been removed, as he has admitted himself that he is repeatedly missing his own targets. Green shoots? No, just weeds.

Unfortunately this is the collateral damage when those running the club are making ticketing policy up on the hoof in panicked response to crap sales and being given a shoeing on social media. The fact that these U-turns are a regular occurrence under this plonker seems to be lost on him.

What’s the question you want answering? The forum is happy is here. You are asking why it is isn’t a coup; nobody has said it wasn’t a coup to get a fella that was managing in the CL and winning titles in recent seasons You’ve asked why posters think Rovers isn’t attractive; nobody has said it isn’t, we are Blackburn Rovers fanatics on this forum, of course we think it’s an attractive job. So like I said you are stirring again and I don’t know what you are getting out of it…

Creating an argument that isn’t there again. Tell me a single poster unhappy with the appointment.

You’re joking, what was it he said? ‘My skill set is not suited to League 1’, so he wouldn’t get out of bed for those cloggers in even lower divisions…