A little candour can go a long way but few managers will ever come out and admit they've screwed up. Doesn't inspire much confidence from your players, and more importantly, your bosses. Of course, the scarier notion is that Mowbray genuinely believes he hasn't put a foot wrong, and circumstances are to blame.

Mowbray still has goodwill with some fans from last season's promotion to earn the benefit of the doubt. I guess the thinking is that with a season in the Championship under our belts we can consolidate in the summer and push on. And perhaps more pertinently the fear of Venkys spinning the roulette that encourages this status quo bias.

Scary thing is she probably thought Kean was a "bright, up-and-coming" manager.

£250m to turn an established Premier League club into a Championship basketcase.

It's time for a shake-up from the top down. I understand that some fans want to give Mowbray the benefit of the doubt, since he's the only manager under Venky's to achieve a modicum of "success", albeit bringing us full-circle. For many others, though, the writing is on the wall. Mowbray has run out of ideas and excuses. I wouldn't trust him with a summer rebuild. He's only just twigged that we need a no-nonsense centre-half! Mowbray gets a free pass this season for keeping us up. However, if we want to progress instead of going backwards we need new management with fresh ideas and ambitions. We shouldn't fall into the same trap of accepting mediocrity or playing it safe out of fear of change. I know this much, I don't much fancy another season of Teflon Tony blaming everyone under the sun for his own shortcomings as we slink back to League One.

Lot of rebuilding needed in the summer. I wonder if we would need to sell Dack to do it? At least that way we wouldn't be locked into playing one up top. Anyway, Leutwiler, Williams, Downing, Gladwin, and Conway can all go. I'd keep Evans, as his longer contract will make him harder to shift. We can dump Smallwood on a L1 club. Need a new goalie, at least two centre-backs, left-back, centre-mid, winger and a striker. I'd renew Reed's loan or try a cut-price deal, otherwise pass. Fan of Rodwell but he's only here as a makeshift CB and those stop-start injuries are no good for continuity.

Lazy buggar was the consensus, if I recall.

Yup, Downing, Leutwiler, Rodwell, Conway, Gladwin all up at the end of season. Source says the same for Evans & Nyambe, although they're actually tied to 2021 & 2020 respectively.

And Mowbray will play him at right-back.

We’ve been a soft touch for a long time now. Seriously, when was the last time we had a decent backline? Even when we had Dann, Duffy, Hanley etc. we still struggled to keep teams out.

Never said that Evans & Smallwood always play together, it's that Mowbray has to pick one of them. To drop both last night was a breath of fresh air.

In an ideal world, the XI would be: *((NEW GK)) Nyambe - **Bauer - Lenihan - ((NEW LB)) Chapman - Reed - Travis - Armstrong/Rothwell Dack Graham * Would keep Raya but he needs competition ** or the equivalent Too gung-ho for our Tony?

Would love for last night to be a turning point for the manager, but I think now that we're practically safe we will revert to type.

Think it's funny fans nitpicking Magloire for missing out on a few headers. He's a raw 20 year-old making his first team debut. Did people not expect him to put a single foot wrong? Anyway, fair play, we got the job done against a woeful Wigan side. Strangely, those enforced changes behoved us, otherwise I'm sure it would've been same old story. 'Twas good to see that Evans & Smallwood are not undroppable, but will it last?

Raya Travis Nyambe Williams Bell Rothwell Reed Evans Armstrong Brereton Graham

Worth a crack. Isn't Travis a right-back by trade?

Time for a change. Can't keep playing the same old plodders in different positions and expect results. Let's start Rothwell, Brereton, and anyone from the U23's who's half-decent.

I wonder if he'd work in the 'pivot' role of a 4-5-1 with Reed/Travis in front of him? Age isn't really a factor when you've been crippled with hamstring injuries.

I always find it strange how fans can see the blindingly obvious, like players being played out of position or who should/ shouldn't be playing, but the manager can't. Mowbray's been around the block, he's an experienced gaffer, so why does he keep shoving square pegs into round holes?

Does Rodwell still have the legs to play midfield?

It's all about how you finish the season, not how you start it. If we continue in this vein of form, I really don't see any way back for Mowbray. He's run out of ideas and shoehorns players into positions rather than play his best XI. If he can't see that Williams, Smallwood, Bennett, Evans are not up to scratch, when will he? Why do rank-average players like that forever get the nod over somebody like Rothwell? Not saying he's a world-beater but he offers more than any of them going forward. However, we're back to another 'safety first' manager who's too busy fretting about the opposition rather than trying to win a game.

I know it's crazy but we could start by playing people in their natural positions. Just a thought. ?

Can't have a bad game if you never play

I think most fans accepted this was a season of consolidation. However, we are getting progressively worse and the team selections more baffling, which doesn't bode well for the future if he's to remain in charge.

He got Norwich promoted in 2011, kept them up the following season. I take it maths isn't your strong suit?