This is why certain players/ex players etc keep saying expectation levels are too high amongst the fans. They miss the point though that fans have issues with the ownership, those running it (into the ground) and all associated problems. When you start a season after finishing 8th/7th you are entitled to expect at least midway even allowing for a budget cut. Not at BRFC though.

Correction - they chopped their own legs off by being found to warrant an investigation.

Mowbray was allowed 4 players in that Jan window when one or two decent forwards would have been enough, JDT was allowed what ? Sorba Thomas ? TM fecked that window up badly and lets not bring Rothwell into it that was pie in the sky the facts are the 4 he brought in where all wrong. One of them was a good player in his true position but within a few months here he'd played several different roles instead of his own and was benched for being so poor. The season after he went back to being a specialist in his real position.

Main thing with TM is not only did he have a mid table budget he was also never ever forced to sell a player which is unheard of here under this ownership. JDT here 5 mins and loses several good players. TM wasn't a flop he just did what it said on the tin but he wasn't good either.

Sadly he isn't here to achieve anything other than staying in this league and if we stay up it'll be the same aim next season. If we go down he must be moved on no ifs buts maybes and so should the people who brought him in.

Similar to Mowbrays later time and a large reason why he had sudden success at Sunderland with the same midtable Mogga style, he had bright young lads to throw on up top. We've done well bringing one guy through to replace another in the goal scoring ranks up to now but it has been literally that, 1 at a time. All of them cost money, the forward line now needs major investment/critical recruitment it is an absolute urgent priority. Even if they find another Sammie or invest in a BBD who carries the can whilst they find their feet ?

Been asked various times down the years on the walk to the ground and to be fair iv'e done it myself a time or two at away games. That time at Ewood though was really suss, not sure we were on line but ticketing agencies existed and i suppose it was bulk buying on the phone. It was the era of the super touts after all but it just amazes me the club didn't notice !

Not sure how else whole blocks of like hundreds together in the outer wings of the riverside and JW upper/lower fell entirely into the hands of City fans. Odd ones dotted all over the place had obviously got their hands on tickets from locals selling them but those areas no chance, they'd been empty all season. It was dodgy beyond just a few fans grabbing a bit of money back.

There was non where we were for the majority of the game then when home fans began leaving in their droves city fans were piling in from outside in their droves. They piled on the pitch from all corners at the end because they'd be arriving whilst the game was on and waiting for the gates to open. Either way it was a mess.

A few did but also the club did via ticketmaster etc then pretended they didn't know why whole sections of seats in the corner of the JW and Riverside that had been empty all season were suddenly full. Fans took all the blame though of course.

No Persil here they just really really love losing money.

You do realise this is a team that might be relegated on the day ? How do you think visiting fans might react to home fans in their section celebrating ?

They can't seize assets over here so no, it was property in India that was seized. Probably just selling this so they can get that back.

Been saying for ages why don't they sell that and use the money for the club as it's already in the country and it was buying that has caused some present issues in the first place. 5 mill will be handy in league 1 !

More than likely he was just trying to spark a reaction from the crowd and maybe his team. Age old trick.

Pickering is no better than Tommy Spurr and at least the excuse for his zero pace was age and wear and tear. Picks is probably the slowest full back iv'e ever seen so that's not a great qualification for being used as a wing back.

Waggot just wants to make himself look good in the owners eyes so he stays in wages and bonuses therefore the opportunity to take extra money will be too much to resist for him. Yet again it's the perfect opportunity to give something back to the fans and rebuild the ST base by several thousand but they've passed up on every other opportunity and this will be no different. Boost income and manage costs is all Waggot has a remit and all he asks of a gaffer is keep us in this league, the most unambitious club and ownership in this league and that will ultimately lead to relegation at some point. Not sure how that makes him look good in the owners eyes we can dedeuce they aren't that bothered and his position is safe whatever.

Those betting odds concern me more than they should.

Awful recruitment utterly pointless waste of a wage but never mind he might cut it in league 1.

We've blown it in the 'must not lose' winnable home games, we didn't lose some of them but didn't try hard enough to win. Of course if we do stay up then that looks justified but in truth we should be safe now by winning just one of those, a relegation is a totally self inflicted one there are no two ways about it. Absolutely no one comes out of it with anything positive to be said about them apart from Sammie. There is way more to it than just not being good enough.

The Andy Cole story, the training ground shenanigans, the best bus in football lie and the fact the min attention turned to him in the stands he threw the players in front of fans and made it into an us v them situation. If non of that shows people the exact kind of character he is i don't know what does so with that in mind he'll be difficult to shift without some real pressure. If we get relegated and his head doesn't roll there should be all out mutiny.

Despite being crap this season and all the negative stuff surrounding the club we still get 15/16k home fans for the ticket deals and big games. That shows the support is there and if only half those irreguler attendees were turned into season ticket holders that would improve things a lot on a match day.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement then is it surely if you're pitching cheaper prices to Waggot and co it has to be justified by more than a shrug of the shoulders.

Good prices but at the moment taking everything into account how many do we think we'd shift at those prices ?

Yes they've missed every opportunity. Promotion from league 1 - X Mid table Mogga - X 7th place - X 8th place -X Just avoid relegation (hopefully) - ?