If that fight was in England then both fighters would have got pelters after 3 or 4 rounds of messing about no matter who they are. Furys clowning wouldn't have gone down well at all.

Yeah if the Ukrainian had thrown just 20% more jabs or whatever then the scorecards could have looked different although again I get the impression Fury is quite adaptable. Just touching on the fitness side of it again it takes some doing to shed 6 stones in a month yet stay in top fighting shape. Maybe it's just a question of cutting out crap but if some other heavyweights had followed that path just how good could they have been. I'm thinking Bowe, Buster Douglas after he dethroned Tyson and one or two others. Fury looks like he could crack at any min but he must have some serious mental strength to be fair.

I caught the gloves are off and didn't think much of it other than the usual mouth. Stating that he was much younger and bigger as he repeatedly did wasn't rocket science just like his tactics of dance and counter using his much bigger reach weren't. Has to have massive credit for sticking to it and carrying it through though as well as getting into the shape to do it for such a big cumbersome guy. Saw some behind the ropes and yes I was surprised at his boxing brain and the guy is very intelligent. Fact remains though that he's a loud mouth prick from a family of scumbags and he spent the last few months making it impossible for hardly anyone to take to him, u makes yer bed as they say. Not that he cares, he genuinely doesn't which helps his daft image. Fact is though that for everything Fury did good the other night Wlad was equally as bad. 50% Fury made him look that way but the other 50 was a bit of a no show with him. Just because you don't like someone doesn't mean you don't rate them though and Fury can be a force in this below average division. I remain far from convinced there is anything great about him though and I just wish the other night it was only for one version of the crown as that would be more fitting for him at this stage but that's boxing I suppose.

Not seen it yet but sounds like a good effort from Degale and a great confidence builder, not that he needs it like. Agree I always thought Froch would have had too much for Degale and I'd like to see him set the record straight with big mouth Groves although not sure he should keep getting title shots. Joshua / Whyte is an interesting one, if it's a trade off it really could go either way but if they box a bit I expect Joshua to come out on top inside 5. As much as I'd love to see Fury ironed out I don't think AJ is ready for him yet he needs to be mixing it with the Chisoras for a good few hard rounds in a couple more fights yet.

It's getting a bit like footy, athlete first, skill set second. If Klitscko had stepped on the gas a few rounds earlier it could have been different but Fury does have a good boxing brain on him i'll give him that. Still maintain that a good heavyweight who gets on his chin will stop him, when he did take a couple late on his legs always look like they could buckle. Thing is with his new found athleticism I can't see anyone getting near him just because of the sheer size and movement. Wlads talking about a rematch and he deserves one as the long reigning champ who put ALL his belts on the line if not his performance. If I were him though I'd forget it unless he's going to go for it properly @#/? or bust which is doubtful. He'll get stopped next time with that same approach.

It was no real surprise as he was always in with a good shout and in no way whatsoever is this a Douglas / Tyson type scenario some of the press are trying to whip it up as. Probably the biggest victory of the night was the stuff in the background with the gloves and canvas. You have to respect team Fury for sticking to their guns on that one, many would have bent over and taken it then took their money and gone win or lose. As for the fight itself three belts for that is an absolute travesty and if I was the boxing governing bodies of those belts I'd be keeping a close eye on them. You know what Pikeys are like for weighing stuff in ...

Just distresses me to see a guy like Fury getting ALL those belts after just basically dancing around the ring all night. Crazy to have them all on the line after working so hard to unify them. Of course he only has himself to blame he should have fought tooth and nail but it's crap they are all in the hands of one guy who's come from nowhere and was only mandatory to one belt. Shocking state of heavyweight boxing but to be fair the only ones I see beating Fury is a Haye at his best, unlikely now, or Joshua when he's ready but for me he's nowhere near yet. Fury beats Wilder and the rest.

Guys a prick but fair play to him and his team, got their tactics and his fitness spot on. Very very poor from Wlad though, so terrifield of getting ko'd that he won't go for it himself which has been his way all along. Out goes the jab and grab giant and in comes the dance around with hands down then rabbit punch and nut the side of your opponents head with the back of yours close in man mountain champion. You don't have to be good in this era just huge.

Agree with that TJ get it back to being more Bond less Bourne although some would say Bourne is the Yank take on Bond. They must however keep the actor who plays Bond British. Once Hollywood grabs it it'll become a farce and just a vehicle to promote the latest American poster boy !

Funny how peoples opinions differ on the Bond films. Love the old ones of Connery and Moore as most do and I even thought the Lazenby one was good. Never watched all of the others with Dalton, all 80's films were a bit cheesy, Brosnan a bit too flash for me but some great casting and acting of villians. Then I thought the Craig bond is excellent with it's dark edge but wasn't overly mad about Spectre as I think it's going away from that now. Nevertheless it is a good film in patches. Prob a good one for him to bow out on really as I don't want to see him trying to be a Brosnan type but in what are increasingly becoming action movies. He suits the ruff, raw edge stuff better for me and I think they had more way to go with that type of character.

Pulled out because this fight came up, he's a Russian citizen now and promoting boxing over there where he is probably still thought of as a major force seeing as they're always behind the times. Not even sure it's money with him I think he just craves the limelight again after his top class career all but ended years ago. So sad to see him beaten by one or two who wouldn't even have been good enough to sparr with him in his pomp. He says he's going to keep going until he wins a proper version of the cruiserweight world title but I really think Enzo Mc will beat him pretty painfully.

Cotto is now the classic ageing warrior struggling to mix it with the feisty young guns. Must admit I thought his time was up a while back and this fight went just like I thought it would. He would still be ok with slower fighters or older ones but he shouldn't bother mixing it with the young lions, unless he needs the cash. 2 or 3 years ago it would have been far more even and at their peaks I'd take Cotto to win. Just goes to show again how good Mayweather is as he strolled past Cotto when he was a lot fresher and he made Canello look a bit of an over hype job.

Great stuff by Crolla, amazing after what he went through. Still a very talented boxer and bigger things await. Shame for Murray again as if it wasn't for the point deduction I think it was a draw. Not difficult to see who the bent judge was in that one, scoring such a wide margin just in case. I'd like to see him fight Groves next and finish the twerp as a credible contender then maybe get one last shot himself on home soil. He deserves it.

I just cannot take to Fury at all, he's part playing up creating a character for himself and he's part idiot. If he wins and he might then i'll be the first to congratulate him but then i'll be waiting for him to get ironed out by someone else. I've a lot of time for the Klitschko's although yes they are boring and recently haven't had very credible challengers but you don't do what they've done without being a bit talented. Fury's nonsense reminds me so much of the crap Groves came out with before Froch and when you look at his record and opponents I don't really know how anyone can take him seriously but you never know.

It's a funny one with Haye, I believe his shoulder injury was genuine but I wasn't convinced with the cut eye thing. I do fear he might be coming back because he needs the cash as he was involved in some foreign property thing that hit problems. That's why I think he'll just try to jump into big fights rather than work his way back in.

David Haye coming back and is training with the Mcguigans. Not sure if it's a good idea as he's been out a long time and the heavys are getting bigger but if he's retained most of his ability and is fit and hungry then he's still one of the best we've got.

She seems to just be a puncher who's fitness levels were put into question when she didn't flatten her oppo in the first 60 secs. Either that or she took her eye off the ball after thinking she's the best thing since sliced bread. Got to give credit to Holm though, she's a talented fighter who's proved to be the real deal.

Well Rhonda you've learned a valuable lesson there, chat @#/?, get banged. Hope your watching Fury !

Also a big fan of Froch, more so the fighter than the guy but he is full of contradictions. In the paper today saying he's telling his good mate Haye not to come back as he's been out too long. In Mens fitness mag saying he's staying in good shape just in case but it would take a promoter with a really interesting fight at light heavy for him even to consider it. Then Jonny Nelson doing a Q&A on twitter last night said Froch would have gone for Groves again if he'd have won the title but other than that no chance he'll come back. Personally I think he'll have another fight in the new year I think the pull is too strong for him to resist and he knows there is still gas in the tank.

Quigg v Frampton now done and dusted and that's another potential cracker. Although a good fighter I thought Frampton might be a bit of a hype job but after going out of his comfort zone and winning that fight after being under serious pressure I now believe he's the real deal. Strangely though I fancy Quigg in this, naturally bigger and a big puncher.

Probably didn't read it anyway, only doing as he was told. Who by though........

Tantric probably see's it as one of the best he's ever handed out

He should be in court for theft of 33k per week for 4 years really.

Yeah watched it on Youtube tonight and yes cracking fight, glad you mentioned it on here because it had slipped under my radar. Don't usually bother too much with the tiny weights but Gonzalez is a beast, touch of the Durans about him imo. Record almost like Mayweather but barely gets a mention over here, if he was a Yank all the world would be raving about him. Would like to see Ward / Kov although Ward is a bit awkward to watch at times but fair play if he wants this fight. Having said that though he's a crafty one when it comes to picking his fights and he'd never go into it if he wasn't sure, he won't be going in to trade I know that much

There was a few handbags outside at both games and at the train stations I think, doubt it was anymore than some ordinary league games. That was with 10k plus crowds and away followings of 2800 & 1200. What would this match draw ? 3 or 4K all in ?