When's Phil Brown in for talks then ?

Pears is a cheap second choice keeper who doesn't play regularly but showed he was ok as that in a few league games. Then v Wigan he showed exactly why he's a second choice but lets not forget Raya in all this. Young keepers make cock ups and so do some of the better ones but we'd all feel better with better back up i think.

They might be big names but it doesn't mean they've any managerial experience.

There is absolutely no better description of life under them than that.

In the words of a former director all appointments are made off shore and no one knows who's coming until they are told the day before to prepare. Now unless things have changed......

And this is where it gets tricky ! You can bet your last dollar there are agents on the blower to Suhail and Balaji saying my man Nige will do it cheaper than Carlos. And you can keep the existing staff. We've been here before, this is a real watershed moment and my money is still on a random 30-1 shot.

If the owners have told him they'll pay for someone decent then he should be sifting through good names, no excuse. If he is trying to fit it in with his budget thinking though he'll be interviewing from the cheap/desperate/untried section.

I think rumor only ever started a year or so ago because his age was mentioned. Just like Mowbray and everyone else down there he isn't going to voluntarily walk away from his money. I hope he has to look over his shoulder everyday though.

Do you know something most don't ? 😎

Well training would be lively i'd presume one or both would be joining in Souness like 😁

New era - The agency of Chris Wilder, Mick McCarthy and er....... Simon Grayson (& son)

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I'd rather have a bash at it for a couple of seasons with this fella than embark on another journey to nowhere. As long as they don't let him go stupid with money and wages where is the harm in it. If he was under a DOF he wouldn't be changing much in the background it would be case of concentrate on the the first 11. Try and get the best you can out of what we have and bring in a few decent players to help that. A guy like this should be able to operate in similar circumstances to what Mowbray did if there was a bit of a budget. Can always go back to the steady guy or young coach route if it doesn't work out.

Mr Waggot needs a one way ticket off this gravy train the guy has overseen a year on year decline in ST sales after hiking prices year on year. All our local rivals seem to have been cutting prices and selling more, some of them in the same division with smaller fanbases and problems of their own. Surely being a failure in this very important dept is a sackable offence ?

Float the exotic names around but we couldn't get them over the line but the publicity was nice. Bottle it completely and in comes Adkins another steady eddie to do as he's told and be grateful for the job. Tick tock.....

I think it's typical of people of this ilk to be all over it when something good happens but completely ignore it when things aren't going well. So it would be the same in front of their friends they just wouldn't mention the club and just boast about something else and i doubt he was any different. When i spoke to him briefly and politely albeit pointing out the mess i can assure you there was no concern or contrition. His answer was my family have shown they can afford to fund the club so nobody should worry. When i pointed out people were concerned about what was going on on the pitch and the managerial situation he seemed completely non plussed. Attitude was very much we've got the money and we'll get it right. Then i was blocked. This was a long time ago and maybe he has more of a grasp of it now but i wouldn't be too sure. I think if it was his own money he'd certainly have a different take on it that's for sure.

Those in the know putting a positive PR spin on it are actually that out of touch they don't even know it's just the usual pitch reseeding job ?

You'd think existing executives riding on the gravy train costing 150/300k a year would be capable of understanding their club and market. Problem is unlike Andy they don't need too because the money is already there and they don't have too work day and night for it.

Not sure he'll have buzzed about the club for 11 years i bet he's never been here more than a couple of times. I remember his facebook page years ago had the Rovers badge on it but most of the football talk amongst him and his pals was Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man Yoo etc. We are just a toy in a large and diverse playroom.

Always thought he was a handy player to have around Tom Lawrence but i remember hearing at the time there was a bit of the old billy big bollocks going on. It was under Bowyers tenure though were a lot of players were taking the piss and always on it.

Gibson at Boro probably does and the guy who set Huddersfield on the right path a few yeas ago, Hoyle i think it was. There are a few around especially lower down the scale but it's by no means a guarantee of success. Many are hampered by lack of enough finance or inherited debts. That's not really been the case here it's been a lack of common sense and making the correct effort to get to grips with what they are actually doing with the club. Too much personal wealth to cover mistakes without batting an eyelid, too much arrogant aloof assumption that the Indian business/family way is the only way to run an English football club. Too much relying on just praying and paying that'll it'll just come right of it's own accord. And of course too many snouts in the trough and wrong tongues i right arseholes. Common football sense needed in head office now to build on what is here and a director on the board who preferably knows the club and town. Two things that shouldn't be impossible to attain for billionaires with any semblance of a plan for the club.

Where would they find such a type though even if they wanted one ? Seems even these type of football club staff come either via agents or working hand in hand with one.

Cousin Vineeth Friend of the Matriarch Shebby Balajis right hand man 3 examples there how it hasn't worked before but i suppose we would be getting a bit closer to the source with this one.

Like i said earlier got to give him a chance and see what he's all about it won't take long to suss him out. It's not going to happen though they aren't going to let him be the whipping boy for the past 12 years. If he does get involved it'll be from a safe distance and the local press will be told what they can and can't ask.

The fact it's a big city compared to Blackburn not withstanding Bradford did heavily discounted STs years ago. Once you get them back in you can work on keeping as many as possible. We have a starting point of one of the smallest catchment areas alongside one of the most deprived boroughs in the country. Heap in year on year price rises and a perceived lack of genuine ambition before last season and it's not hard to see why we are still struggling. Burnley are retaining a lot of their Prem support, they will do for a while and so would we if they'd potted Kean. Wigan and Bowton alongside Blackpool are just off the back of their best seasons in years.