The only identity most Rovers fans need is a regular team in the blue and white with a clear plan for punching as high up as they can. Delivered by a manager with clear instructions and his own clear ambition. Most other stuff will be forgiven as just part and parcel of football, if it's obvious they are having a go week in week out. I think most felt that was the case a few years ago. Over the last few seasons though its becoming more and more like we just exist for other peoples benefit again. I'll bring x & y in just because i can, I'll do this this way and that that way and i'm not bothered how it works out as long as me and the players are happy and so on and so forth. The only thing that has changed more than the narrative in the last 2 seasons is the team on a game by game basis. Just what is it actually all about ? Because we are straight back to the days no one can give a straight answer. The hierarchy is looking befuddled and exposed again and the ownership as detached and directionless as ever.

It's the social media era though and consider the agency/s connected with Rovers. All far too obvious at times there are propaganda machines at play. Facebook and twitter and especially the LT is where they thrive. Not as easy on forums where most know what they are talking about and quickly rip them to shreds. PR companies have paid people who take this stuff on and run multiple accounts. When you get into a row with some of these opinions that just seem opposite for the sake of it about 50% of the time you'll find them to clearly be bullshitters with an agenda but no real other SM presence. There's a reason they rarely pitch up on the likes of here, i had 2 trolling me yesterday on twitter. Both jumping to Mowbrays defense but their tag lines being 'done great things here', 'nice guy he shouldn't get stick'. Yet when engaged in actual football matters neither could offer any kind of argument or point. It always went straight back to the same thing, being offended on his behalf because he was getting stick. Half of them are cranks not real rovers fans and that's a fact. Some somewhere are fighting against the tide on his behalf and someones request. I'm sure it happens at other places as well.

I'll never get people, young or older, switching teams. Sorry but it's just not an option i'm afraid. I can exclude kids who are so easily swayed by tv football but to just up sticks to another club you're fond of because your so called 1st love is now a bit crap ...? Nah, you might stop attending or just get totally fed up with football but hiking off to watch someone else miles away. Poor show really but each to their own i suppose in this era it's seen as more of an acceptable thing.

This time of year always flags up numerous videos of Simon Garner ripping Man City a new one. It gets more iconic as time goes on for those who knew the club then because even though we are back at that level we bare very little resemblance to that outfit. Just a hollow shell bobbling along being run to the convenience of a bog standard ambitionless plodder and his close mates. Zero spirit and togetherness off the pitch, a team that changes so much game by game and in game that nobody can identify with it. And crazily owned by hapless billionaires who's interest goes up and down like a zip. They keep signing the cheques that keep us from the brink of the Bolton situation they have created, yet never really drag us away from the edge. One, just one season in the Prem would do that and clubs with far less clout than us in this league at least have a go at it. As always though we have to operate at the level of those who run and manage us and it's not necessarily what the finances dictate. It's what the dictators dictate !

People say give him credit when they win because he gets stick when they lose. These days yes but thats not always been the case. Normally i'd try and balance it by saying fair play to the manager. Just can't after that though it was just another hit and miss game we could easily have lost. Probably should've been a draw but despite less possession we probably showed more direct intent than in 3 games normally. I'd much prefer that sort of performance and result most weeks. Bit of a hark back to before he went possession/stats mad. Poor opposition though does it for us again. Some of the subs there were very risky considering we really needed that result. Not really the time to just be throwing bods on for a few mins just to keep them happy. Could so easily have backfired and wasn't worth the risk. That's him all over though, if a jumble of a manager.

He's someone who definitely hasn't improved this season. Probably being coached to play like Evans though knowing these lot.

Let's just get these 3 points in the bag

We are a few months into that territory i'm afraid.

We need to stay up first and foremost, that needs sealing asap. It's a toss between what would keep him here more, 5 straight wins or relegation. That's the stupidity of it with this ownership, his fate should already be decided regardless of what happens next. He absolutely knows he's on borrowed time as far as most fans are concerned. So it needs him to do the decent thing once a couple of wins are bagged.

Here's how it'll work out, we'll win tonight and maybe go until end of season unbeaten. Everything is in place now for players to motivate themselves. New contracts, extensions, moves and just plain relief this ballache season is nearly done, beach in sight. Mowbrays motivation is obviously non existent as we usually see for most of the middle thirds of every season. However there is more to play for for quite a few beyond just points for little old plodding along BRFC and their docile gaffer. Then after a turbulent summer for different reasons to the last one everybody trudges to Ewood in August. All 6k of us, just knowing that however we start it's not if but when it all turns to a death spiral again. Rinse and repeat, those worried about Tony's feelings though on twitter and facefook will be happy in the knowledge he's got another 500k in his bank.

It seems to go beyond a few hundred grand per year though. Just wondering if there might be some on the VLL payroll drawing money out of it that way. Or they are funding other stuff through VLL and that might explain a few things. Iv'e often wondered does ALL the money they send over to VLL find its way into the club or is there something else at play. Wonder what happened to the 3 million they invested in Acons venture ?

What overheads could VLL have that isn't relevant to Rovers accounts ? Supposedly it's just a shell company to own and fund Rovers via the VH group/Venkys

I don't think there's much to gain money wise in the places. More important in our position to keep fans interested and help attract players. Obviously though along with results it doesn't matter anymore.

His mouthpiece twitter account has been DMing him again.

It's what he passes off as development that is the worrying thing. Gallagher in various positions, BB cameo's, dropping Nyambie every now and then, Bells cameo's, rotating midfielders game in game out, Elliot or Dolan, those two moved artound varios positions. There's more... All that just adds to the clusterfuck of no balance, no partnerships developing and long periods of no wins rocketing down the leagues. Yet this is what he sees as development, my god these owners really are thick as pig shit. It was inevitable though that at some point Mr Integrity and his friends would start taking the piss. Once they know how it really rolls here and how far they can push it.

There's a few other things in the mix in favour of the pitch now to be fair. No rain for a week or so, grass starting to grow properly and no games on it for a while. You'd expect it to have settled a bit, helped by the hard graft of the grounds team of course. Training on it when they did was either the work or a real dumbo or a conniving tosser. Jury's out on that one.

He must be referring to parachute money with his 100 million line so he's basically saying only clubs with that get promoted. White flag waver. This is on the back of saying you have to dominate possession and the ball to get promoted. Iv'e been banging on ever since he changed system it's no good for a club like us or the players he has and signs. How many average sides suddenly change style and football their way out of this league ? Non, so yes you need money to sign better to players to do that, he's right there. So why in the name of almighty god did he just decide on a whim to try it here ??? You need to mix it up, be strong aggressive and in the face to prosper in this div without the luxuries a big relegated club might have. If he'd done some of that after lockdown last season when we'd nothing to lose we might have landed in the play offs. He'd no frigging intention of it though he bottled it, nothing is clearer now he's been stringing it along as long as he can. The Coventry job was too big for this faker as was Boro so why do we expect something out of the ordinary here ? He's more suited to somewhere like Chesterfield he can't handle the remotest bit of ambition or expectation. Yet it seems him and his mates are being allowed to dumb down Rovers to a level THEY are comfortable with. Someone needs to get in the owners ears and quick.

He talks about 100 million which is complete bull shit along the lines of Bauer wants 40k pwk. This is the guy who claims he steered the owners to spend their money on investments like Brereton and Gallagher. Plenty managers would've used that money if it was on offer to get into the top 6. Not this dweeb though, no real plan, no real idea how to do it and not really arsed.

Ah the 'we want TM replaced but we'll dig out every conceivable stat we can find to try and prove he's doing it right' gang ! Every tweet liked by Dan Clough 🙄 Obviously these lads are performance fans not result ones, they don't do league tables either.

He is the journalistic equivalent of a virtue signaler when it comes to this regime. Trouble is they get to know some of these guys at the club on a personal level and that shines through. It shouldn't the club, fans and results should always be the priority.

I couldn't see Lambert doing much different to TM but it would have been interesting to see how he invested money. He was a bit more agricultural and organized than Mowbrays sides. I think he'd have started with defense that's for sure, would he have pished 12 million on BB & SG unless he had to ? Doubt it but to be fair TM has brought in some good players and loans and blooded some good youth. The fact he clearly hasn't got the first clue how to mould a best starting 11 out of them is the main issue. So he's hidden behind development, transition, possession, pitch, various other clubs models, injuries, journey, training ground and now back to money again. He's gone the full circle twice over in every aspect and besides just imagine Mowbray coming in here with no Graham or bennett.....Lamberts signings.

Some of our deluded do as well and thats what has led to this. They treated him like some sort of football god and he's been acting like one. So much so that he just can't see what all the fuss is about now.

I certainly wouldn't rule it out, then he's in line for an even better pay off. That would be these lot to a tee.

This is shaping up to be a very bitter ending.

They hired Coyle so yeah they'll have no qualms about keeping this one even if we finish 4th bottom. Always said they'd still fund the club forever with hardly anybody in the ground. They aren't bothered as long as games are beamed into their kitchen. So they can continue playing real life football manager when they feel like it. Probably betting amongst themselves on team selection and subs.