God knows but we'll just have to pray they've done it the right way. Not sure any club who has tried this has prospered on the back of it. If it was so straightforwards and made so much sense then loads would be at it. The Raos haven't been successful in anything they've done here so far in a whole decade of trying. No reason to think this is anything other than a desperate act brought about through desperation rather than any great plan.

Great, an afternoon listening to a big city clubs hordes only there because the tickets are cheap singing 'you're support is effing shit' . Maybe a few of our own crowd experts might like to join in with them judging by some of the stuff flying around recently. I seriously hope we get a turnout for this and the sooperfans make an effort at getting behind the team. Gee along all those crap fan part timers they like to look down on.

This is what i'v'e said all along whilst dozens on facebook etc are whooping with delight. Once it's gone off the club books it's gone it doesn't really matter who buys it. Ok in our case it looks like the actual club owners have bought it themselves but it now belongs to them not the entity that is BRFC. So the only way it comes back to the club is if it's bought back. Impossible without a stint in the Prem or it is gifted back for free or a token sum. Unlikely although maybe they could use the loss on the books as some massive tax right off. So in all probability now it stays with them and is leased back to the club, until they decide the time is right to hatch the new training ground plans.

Which highlights my point about how clubs are run and teams are managed. There's been more than enough funding/backing or whatever you want to call it here under Vs tenure for us to be a much healthier club. If we were a decent top 6 challenging outfit regularly then over the course of the season we'd have a few thousand more regulars. The income would certainly help and Ewood would be a better place on matchday, although this season the atmosphere is actually probably better than its been for a while. However in bigger picture terms it wouldn't make much difference being run the way we are. The extra million or two gate money would still be swallowed up by gigantic losses. Probably this management pissing it down the drain on a few 20k pwk loans like Downing that would make sod all difference in the long term. It certainly wouldn't stop them needing cash injections like the sale of the training ground. You would need 5k extras through the gates every match to stave off that kind of thing. That isn't and has never happened at a club like Rovers hanging around in mid table in the championship. These are just cold hard facts for a club like us and always have been, we'll always need some kind of funding in the modern era. Being a realist in terms of size of the club is fine but those who constantly lay blame at the door of fans and crowds are plonkers trying to justify their own contribution. They need to look at the gates some clubs in this league are getting, clubs based in larger and in some cases more affluent towns and cities.

What these clowns and some on here don't grasp is that it would need 20k ave gates in this league to make any difference. Even then if the thing isn't run right - which it 100% wouldn't be - then we'd still end up in the same boat. They just don't look around and see what's going on but smaller clubs with smaller gates often do better. And some far bigger ones with gates to match do worse. It's ALL about how clubs are run and owned and who is doing it. This is a town club in an area that's always had more issues than most others. The few thousand extra we might be capable of getting, if our support wasn't so shite according to these 'sooper fan' types who only exist on social media, really wouldn't stop the rot we find ourselves in. It didn't at Bolton for example and it wouldn't here, demographics and finance limit our support not passion. Nearly every club in the land has a large element that will only come and go according to form. That is just football the examples are endless. Quite honestly if you attach most of the blame for these things that keep happening at Rovers under this ownership to the fanbase you are a tit. A large one.

Yep then by the end of it the owners have taken the fixed assets from the club to themselves. Then they can sell them to get their money back and buy a smaller cheaper site and stick up their kit build cheaper smaller training center.

Mowbray was only saying the other day about selling those in Jan whose contracts are running down. In order to free up some investment for the team, says it all really.

Which is the way they tend to play it with just about everything else at the club.

This is the danger here now with people thinking this is some way of injecting team building, manager changing money. It's far more likely money that was desperately needed to just get through the pandemic and service the already stretched overdraft. Therefore in future not much is likely to change they've set their future stall out this summer just gone.

I'm suspecting they've wanted some security for extra money they'd had to find quickly. Probably already spent and couldn't be put through the usual channels.

The 3 of them might just be seeking security for extra funds they may have pooled between them to see the club over the pandemic. Doesn't mean it'll count for anything going forwards other than keeping us in business as usual.

Good old LT only 4 months out of touch with this one and no doubt alerted to it again by this site. Now the bots and pr gurus can get to work in the comments section telling everyone how great this is.

Venkys London ltd owns the club and the VH group owns VLL as far as i can gather.

If Mowbray and Venus stay at Rovers beyond this season then at some point Pears will end up number 1. Written in the stars the min they paid a fee for him and gave him a 4 yr contract. Not if but when.

That's the first thing i thought, sell and rent it back. It might look nice on the balance sheet in the short term but long term this is very worrying. It's been sold after all just as many feared it would one way or another.

Interesting I wonder if they've bought it from the club with a view to selling it themselves ? Hopefully just a number crunching exercise but wouldn't be surprised if this unfolds into something odd.

Who was the big no 5 at the back for them ? He looked like he could walk into a championship side physically.

As i said i thought it was down to us shooting ourselves in the foot a bit like the first team. How many times did Rovers put themselves under pressure by trying to play it across the back ? To be fair it did look like Liverpool were in 2nd gear but their 1st goal was a gift. I was surprised they began to wilt at 2 nil up but didn't know they were full of younger lads. Credit to Rovers though for keep plugging away though.

A bit like the first team a lot of effort and huffing and puffing but create nothing and don't seem to have an actual style. The only football they try and play is across the back and usually when they are under pressure and it's the wrong thing to do. Apart from Liverpools second goal there didn't really seem any gulf in quality. Liverpool happy to let Rovers play then mop up the misplaced passes and launch counters. Lively game though and good result in the end, didn't deserve to lose.

That really really rankles it was a total waste of time and ruined last season. But of course we've beaten Reading at home so that's under the rug and he's the messiah again now.

Whilst at the game a mate watching at home in the first half text me and said ' 'Rothwell is too deep. Surely when you have a player like that in a home game you want to get him running at the box in the final 3rd' Couldn't argue with that then the min he gets himself in the box we get a goal. Rocket science again. As for the contract situ they've just fooked it up again it should have been tied up far earlier. Then when the likes of Rangers come sniffing around they either can't poach them or have to pay a fee. At the time it should have been sorted, probably 12 months ago, Mowbray was busy calling him out instead of into his CEO's office. Now with the money he'll get elsewhere in the form of a signing on fee we are probably out of the running. Now i ask again with perfect justification what the situation would've been if this guy was from Middlesbro !!!

Oh he'll try it again no doubt about that.

I agree, he's bang average we tend to see the good and bad of his methods sometimes only days apart. You never know with this lot they could extend his contract and give him 5 mil a time to spend in the next 2 windows. Therefore they've done their bit keeping a manager some claim is punching above his weight. And giving him as much backing as the clubs books may allow. Not sure how you'd feel then, personally i and probably many others know it wouldn't make a jot of difference in how the manager works. That's the issue many have with Mowbray, give him 10 million or ten pence and the exact same things will happen. The real watershed moments in all this were the season or two after promotion when they backed him as much as could be done. He flunked it, they did their bit much as i despise them.

If he's so behind TM then by definition he's behind the owners he claims to despise. They keep Tony in wages so if he's doing such a great job then using this logic they are great owners for keep backing him. End of argument really. Personally i think they are all pretty useless, it's just one lot has more money than sense whilst the other just about gets by on his experience.

The thing is the club 'if' they are serious and a lot of supporters particularly the lapsed ones need a set up to rinse blood out of stones. That has to be the aim of any club like us with an upper mid section wage bill but a fantastic set up and billionaire owners. After 5 years that is just not the impression most have with the Mowbray, Swaggot regime. They basically right after promotion set their stall out to go nowhere, keep everybody happy and in wages. Then just hope for a good season where everything clicks. That in a nutshell is the main issue, they've talked a good game at times and tried with bigger squads. They just aren't savvy enough to get anywhere near it though we've never even finished in the top 10. The mid bracket wage bill is fact of course it is but so are the things this present lot have done to bloat that and go nowhere. They've also moved the goal posts to suit their own narratives about 5 times every season. Moral of the story is they've been all too happy to sail along on a mill pond of comfort rather than ride the waves and be bold.