Basically the owners have been underwriting the bills whilst still finding enough room to give this manager and his cronies some competitive wages and funds for transfers. Now though with promotion still nowhere in sight it needs a big cash injection from somewhere above and beyond the millions put in just to get by. This is where Waggot and co have spotted their chance to cook up the training ground scheme. We also need a management set up that maximizes what we do have compared to some others. Not one that cries about what we don't have continually and keeps implying he can deliver but only if he gets this/that/the gate post and the other, only to find something else to then blame his floundering on.

Not listened to the interview but by the sounds of it he went off on another humanitarian waffle when asked about the proposed Super League. Some of what he was saying was probably correct but there's a time and place to start going on about the pandemic again and peoples lives. To me that just sums him up he puts a sob story spin on everything from a football pitch to a simple question not club related. It really is no wonder he has the owners ear he's a walking sermon these days. It's also no wonder he's no ruthlessness in his body or a winning mentality to drill into his players. A career with a white dog collar on awaits him, he'd be good at that. Instead of being intent on dumbing down the club to make it easier for him and everybody to manage, he really really should hand over the reigns to someone who has a decent amount of drive and ambition for a little bit more.

He needs an Indian foot up his own arse, about once a week next season if he's still here. The most complacent manager in our history.

Easy win for pressure free Tony and his boys there seems a bit more life about him again now with the end in sight. Like a tired old hound who knows it's owner is coming up the path. Weds 1 Rovers 3

It would be nice if someone had the brains and balls to point out some of this stuff to him when the verbals are spilling out unchecked. The way Brentford are set up and run allows managerial changes without too much uphevel. Similar probably at Barnsley another of his 'inspirations', then there's Leeds who had to move through a few to get one good enough for promotion. We can also chuck in Sheff Utd who got a manager who bounced them through from lge 1 to the Prem. Now he's gone as they look to regroup and go again. Then there's a team called Middlesbrough who had to sack an under performer in order to take the next big step forwards. He might have heard of that one. The propagandagraph wouldn't dare point any of this out though. Maybe they know it's pointless because unlike the afformentionds he has the inside of this club stitched up just how he wants it.

He was the one who insisted on slow build if his own words a few years ago are to be believed. Now he's giving the sob story the league is being left behind by the parachute money clubs. It's always been the case and its always been the case you stand still you get left behind. A right visionary isn't he.

The fact that it hasn't come to fruition isn't really the issue for most, as it was always a very long shot under him anyway. The fact he wasted an entire season transitioning then has wasted this one with the style hes transitioned to. The fact his 12 million pounds worth of forwards still look worth a third of that combined. The fact we've won just 2 out of 16, dropped like a stone until we finally find a team worse than us we can beat. And the fact he's still here preparing to carry on the same next season.... All those really are the issues.

He's just going to go through all the same old spin again it's like it's scripted. Needs defenders - didn't sign any Needs quality - Had 12 million, didn't sign any. Needs windows - Had loads of them and we are now further away than ever. Needs experience - Got wages for Holtby, Johnson, Downing x2, Trybull, Ayala & Douglas. Needs transition to possession - 2 wins in 16 and nearly ended up in relegation fight. Needs new pitch - But others kept beating us on the same bit of ground. Needs new training ground - I'm not even commenting on that one. Now he needs 100 million or another 10 windows. Anybody who buys into this still either needs therapy or hasn't really been around Rovers long enough to form any other opinions. Like i said originally - Just #### off !

The flannel has started again, not having this fabled 100 million doesn't mean we should be so so far away from it every season. Also he's had several death spirals here and not been sacked so if someone else takes over why should they be unless we are starring relegation in the face ? That's something that has been a real threat the second half of this season. If it wasn't for the points gained in a few spectacular early wins before his system got sussed that's exactly where we'd be. Stick that up your identity ! Parachute money has always given well run and managed clubs in this league an edge of the others. That didn't start in the last few years just to throw a spanner in his works, it's always been that way. Just means others with decent means - like us - have to be more organized, work harder EVERY game, be very astute with signings and the main thing, be better managed. That's what gives you a chance otherwise why bother. He's set to ramp it up in the coming weeks with more bluff and bluster as he carries on without a care in the world. Then he'll be hoisting the white flag again by December. Why is he even making these comments anyway - unchallenged as usual. He doesn't look at the table and doesn't care about the team as long as he thinks individuals are performing and developing. He told us so just last week. Just #### OFF !

After those words we've basically flopped for a season and a half that has been difficult for every club and person in the land not just Blackburn. A few good results either end of the restart, a few spectacular ones early doors this time and possibly a few at the end. A whole dose of nothingness inbetween alongside weekly excuses and spin. Yet backing in the summer we'd probably no right to expect given the circumstances. Gone into this season with strongest squad in depth he's had here and we've had for years, didn't have Ayala last season and managed most of it without Dack, same as this one. Flopped badly no two ways about it and no logbook of excuses can cover it all. Expect more nonsense as this season rolls to a close. Time is way past being up.

We are firmly at the crossroads now, we've stuck in the past with stability and empty words. Now it's time to twist it's as simple as that. I'd rather land in the middle of the division somewhere at least looking like we've had a genuine go for most of it. Than go round in the inevitable circles we have been with an attitude of 'oh well it is what it is' whilst some feather their own needs and we end up midtable anyway. We need some va va voom back in the club.

Not my first choice but in terms of realistic doable choices, that even this lot should manage, then maybe Ainsworth is worth seriously considering, I would never pay silly compen or give him a daft contract but he's probably not on much down there. So a modest wage, 2 yr deal with rolling option and the same backing the midtable Messiah is wasting and lets see what he can do. It certainly wouldn't represent a serious financial gamble if he'd take up the offer. Can't see we'd have much to lose either as at the very least he'd do similar to Mowbray. Then at least it is a new voice and some new ideas and we could see how someone else would utilize this squad. If it didn't work then fair enough, you don't know until you try and what's to lose compared to the last couple of seasons ?

A new contract for him means relegation at some point in the next couple of years. Alongside the lowest average gates since 1990. Some idiots amongst our fanbase are still deluded enough to think we are still going to go upwards under him and Waggot. They've no intention of trying for that even if funds and the platform is there. Are the owners still stupid enough to buy this ? Yes probably especially when being they are doubtless being fed propaganda by the guys safety buffer CEO and his agency. Helped bizarrely by the naive urchins who claim they want change but run around compiling stats that give the illusion his system is actually working. You couldn't make it up, then again you don't need to with these guys around and Venkys at the helm.

The only identity most Rovers fans need is a regular team in the blue and white with a clear plan for punching as high up as they can. Delivered by a manager with clear instructions and his own clear ambition. Most other stuff will be forgiven as just part and parcel of football, if it's obvious they are having a go week in week out. I think most felt that was the case a few years ago. Over the last few seasons though its becoming more and more like we just exist for other peoples benefit again. I'll bring x & y in just because i can, I'll do this this way and that that way and i'm not bothered how it works out as long as me and the players are happy and so on and so forth. The only thing that has changed more than the narrative in the last 2 seasons is the team on a game by game basis. Just what is it actually all about ? Because we are straight back to the days no one can give a straight answer. The hierarchy is looking befuddled and exposed again and the ownership as detached and directionless as ever.

It's the social media era though and consider the agency/s connected with Rovers. All far too obvious at times there are propaganda machines at play. Facebook and twitter and especially the LT is where they thrive. Not as easy on forums where most know what they are talking about and quickly rip them to shreds. PR companies have paid people who take this stuff on and run multiple accounts. When you get into a row with some of these opinions that just seem opposite for the sake of it about 50% of the time you'll find them to clearly be bullshitters with an agenda but no real other SM presence. There's a reason they rarely pitch up on the likes of here, i had 2 trolling me yesterday on twitter. Both jumping to Mowbrays defense but their tag lines being 'done great things here', 'nice guy he shouldn't get stick'. Yet when engaged in actual football matters neither could offer any kind of argument or point. It always went straight back to the same thing, being offended on his behalf because he was getting stick. Half of them are cranks not real rovers fans and that's a fact. Some somewhere are fighting against the tide on his behalf and someones request. I'm sure it happens at other places as well.

I'll never get people, young or older, switching teams. Sorry but it's just not an option i'm afraid. I can exclude kids who are so easily swayed by tv football but to just up sticks to another club you're fond of because your so called 1st love is now a bit crap ...? Nah, you might stop attending or just get totally fed up with football but hiking off to watch someone else miles away. Poor show really but each to their own i suppose in this era it's seen as more of an acceptable thing.

This time of year always flags up numerous videos of Simon Garner ripping Man City a new one. It gets more iconic as time goes on for those who knew the club then because even though we are back at that level we bare very little resemblance to that outfit. Just a hollow shell bobbling along being run to the convenience of a bog standard ambitionless plodder and his close mates. Zero spirit and togetherness off the pitch, a team that changes so much game by game and in game that nobody can identify with it. And crazily owned by hapless billionaires who's interest goes up and down like a zip. They keep signing the cheques that keep us from the brink of the Bolton situation they have created, yet never really drag us away from the edge. One, just one season in the Prem would do that and clubs with far less clout than us in this league at least have a go at it. As always though we have to operate at the level of those who run and manage us and it's not necessarily what the finances dictate. It's what the dictators dictate !

People say give him credit when they win because he gets stick when they lose. These days yes but thats not always been the case. Normally i'd try and balance it by saying fair play to the manager. Just can't after that though it was just another hit and miss game we could easily have lost. Probably should've been a draw but despite less possession we probably showed more direct intent than in 3 games normally. I'd much prefer that sort of performance and result most weeks. Bit of a hark back to before he went possession/stats mad. Poor opposition though does it for us again. Some of the subs there were very risky considering we really needed that result. Not really the time to just be throwing bods on for a few mins just to keep them happy. Could so easily have backfired and wasn't worth the risk. That's him all over though, if a jumble of a manager.

He's someone who definitely hasn't improved this season. Probably being coached to play like Evans though knowing these lot.

Let's just get these 3 points in the bag

We are a few months into that territory i'm afraid.

We need to stay up first and foremost, that needs sealing asap. It's a toss between what would keep him here more, 5 straight wins or relegation. That's the stupidity of it with this ownership, his fate should already be decided regardless of what happens next. He absolutely knows he's on borrowed time as far as most fans are concerned. So it needs him to do the decent thing once a couple of wins are bagged.

Here's how it'll work out, we'll win tonight and maybe go until end of season unbeaten. Everything is in place now for players to motivate themselves. New contracts, extensions, moves and just plain relief this ballache season is nearly done, beach in sight. Mowbrays motivation is obviously non existent as we usually see for most of the middle thirds of every season. However there is more to play for for quite a few beyond just points for little old plodding along BRFC and their docile gaffer. Then after a turbulent summer for different reasons to the last one everybody trudges to Ewood in August. All 6k of us, just knowing that however we start it's not if but when it all turns to a death spiral again. Rinse and repeat, those worried about Tony's feelings though on twitter and facefook will be happy in the knowledge he's got another 500k in his bank.

It seems to go beyond a few hundred grand per year though. Just wondering if there might be some on the VLL payroll drawing money out of it that way. Or they are funding other stuff through VLL and that might explain a few things. Iv'e often wondered does ALL the money they send over to VLL find its way into the club or is there something else at play. Wonder what happened to the 3 million they invested in Acons venture ?