Most of the regular fans, even his critics, hold him in high esteem for promotion and turning around then stabilizing the club. I know i do, as well as his general conduct over most his time here. It was a refreshing change seeing someone humble, honest and only appearing to be driven by his love of being a manager. He's in grave danger of all that going out the window recently as this season his interviews have gone increasingly bizarre. Now at the point of being an arrogant ignorant self preserver. It isn't the fans or medias fault hard questions now need asking this has been coming a while. Promotion, stability, some good signings and the odd impressive victory have covered over a lot very frustrating stuff. It always catches up in the end but it seems he isn't prepared for it.

Totally agree i think if big Baz's lad was sat in the directors box most home games at least there'd be a presence. He could see for his own eyes some of the plodding and rotating and lack of urgency. You certainly don't want owners meddling but asking the right questions in presence is no bad thing. Mowbray has been one very lucky fella here in that regards by the looks of it. He didn't get away with it at Boro for as long.

He's a crafty worker is old Tone there'll a new spin on this one that'll get lapped up. In a word 'kids'... Then suddenly everyone will be fit when the beach is in sight and all his seniors will be back in !

The penny will never drop on that one with Mowbray for whatever reason. I agree i could well see a far better performance with him out and some real balance in the team. It shouldn't take him coughing up blood to be left out altogether but that's where we are at. Soon as he's ok he'll be back in the same position.

Balaji's son as far as i'm aware but there could well end up a group of the younger generation involved one day who knows. It was his son who got the star treatment here a while back and the 5 star performance.

If we don't win tomorrow night i can still see us spanking Coventry. It'll be all set up for that and a classic backs against the wall performance against a side we are better than.

I reckon he might well be running it now or having a hand in it. Remember when he came to visit for a game not long ago ? Remember the front foot in your face performance and tactics Mowbray employed that day ? Tactics we've rarely seen since, they know what they are doing down there, stringing everybody along.

Hell fire he's getting arsey now with the press it won't be long before he's having his own PR man stood there. I thought he was answering that quite well till a nerve was touched. Surely the relevance of the question is going off the stats he's boasting why the feck aren't we scoring and getting results ! Touches in the box aren't chances or shots, half of them at least are just that...touches.

That's what iv'e been thinking all along he sees himself as a development coach first and foremost. Hence all the messing about with the side constantly, it's been obvious for years. So is there actual pressure from above to do this over assembling a strong settled side and having a real go. Or is this the slow build plan he's sold them and he's doing it off his own bat ? Great comfort zone to be in because the ready make excuses are often valid. Been saying for ages a top 6 tilt is way down the list of real priorities here. This seems very much Tony Mowbray and pals own football factory. What's the real journey though, promotion or a well stocked squad to start breaking up for big money then go again ???

It might not be if they don't get to flog the land.

Looks like they might have had ideas of getting in on the act of owning and running the club but it fell through.

We are very similar to when GB had been here a few years, it all went south pretty quickly. I think we all know though even if he'd stayed he was going backwards. Next step now is vital but there won't be one, as you where. All the off field stuff is about to be the major distraction away from the on field stalemate. That'll probably run through next season as well.

I'd wager not many similar clubs in this league already have the set up these lot are proposing to downscale. The aim is supposed to be eventually re-establishing in the Prem that line is always trotted out. What happens if that came true and we needed more room to expand ?

They might well be so sold on his slow build to top 6 and promotion sales pitch that they genuinely think he'll deliver it. Therefore terrified of selling any player or upsetting his cosy old pals set up. So they'll go along with this instead of questioning the 12 million he's pished away. If only we could get half that back this might not need to happen. Not that it does anyway.

Well we'd have been in the relegation spots this season if it wasn't for him. So we better hope if he did go they can pull a rabbit out the hat next season. If not, training complex / new pitch or neither it'll be a terrible season having to rely on the overpriced pair he's wasted an entire seasons losses on.

It just reeks of opportunism.

Waggot already mentioned this a good while ago so i'm quite certain it'll be his baby. Recent times have just given him the justification to try and get it in motion.

I don't think they are and i doubt Mowbray is much involved with it although imo he's a whole lot craftier than he comes across. The best description of it all was from a poster who correctly pointed out that every aspect of the club has ended up dumbed down under Venkys reign. This was the only but that bore resemblance to what it was before. Not it's just its turn the roulette ball has finally landed on it.

The recent issue is just the type of thing the proposal in this thread could advise the owners correctly on. If you are trying to avoid and atone for mistakes of the past a direct line into the fanbase would certainly help. By bypassing the self interested and self serving who might lurk in the middle this kind of opinion gathering would be less costly on several counts.

Alex Neil for one. besides i think you are in the wrong thread for your hero worshipping obsession.

Reason 407 to try and justify keeping the present flapper, you're persistent i'll give you that. The likes of them get sacked for less than some of Mowbrays death spirals. It wouldn't need a Howe or Lampard to upgrade from TM. Something a bit more realistic like a championship over achiever with a lesser budget might be a start.

It seems every season for the past few years they've sold another plan to the ownership as cover for the lack of a real challenge on the pitch. New monitors/offices and staff to watch players. Drones, filming, more anlytics and staff to watch training. Now, a cost cutting/money making training ground scheme. The owners obviously love this kind of spiel and will have been convinced all this is vital and the missing link to success. Will any of this see this manager/coaching set up see us break the top 6 ? Will it b##### like they are as willingly gullible as ever by the looks of it and being played again. Played for time this time before the next inevitable fire sale recoups millions and the % get their cut. Then we start all over again.

If you are saying to the owners though that we can borrow 3 high end kids every season whilst having their wages mostly covered by their clubs in return for x amount of appearances ??? Then Madame we don't really need to be spending money annually on a Cat 1, a much cheaper Cat 2 will suffice. We are loaning in kids better than what we can attract and produce at a fraction of the costs. The Cat 2 will provide a few good enough to fill out the squad and still unearth the odd rough diamond. The rest we can recoup a few quid selling to lower league clubs. Academy downgrade - save c 2mill a year Training complex merge - save x amount per year Sale of land - 10 mill profit ? Waggot & co are dangerous people to have around they are downgraders not ambitious savvy club builders. The clue is in the CV.

If this gets blocked it could turn into the new snowball theory. Also i wonder if this policy of loaning kids in from high end clubs is someone trying to show the owners that's the way to go instead of your own cat 1 ?

How many times have we said this season this is just the type of game we win when there's been a bit of unrest aimed the bosses way ? Well it hasn't happened much, however.... Rovers 3 Watford 1 Mowbray, Waggot and Venus so cocksure after the win they don the hard hats and high viz at Brockhall the following morning and start marking out the house plots !