I agree about the attendances but I really don't think it will be a problem for the FA. When Bury went to the wall their inaction and silence was palpable. The bulk of PL clubs will survive with smaller crowds due to the golden goose that is Sky. The EFL clubs are the ones at real risk here and I full expect a considerable number to go part time and even out of business.

My post was in light of the three Charlton players who are refusing to play with seemingly no recourse. https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5ed513af35577/bowyer-updates-on-preparations-ahead-of-provisional-june-20th-start-date

That's true because they were season long loans but are you saying the deal has been amended to take into account the extended season? I'm sure there was a story about one of our loanees and that their loan period ended before the playoff final and we would have to seek a new permission to play them should we have gotten there. One of my points about the out of contract players was that individually they might not want to jeopardise their future by getting injured for the sake of a month or two.

Finance could well play a part in the thought process. Brighton and Man City will want extra payments and giving the likes of Graham, Bell, Downing and Leutwiler another month won't be cheap. I guess Mowbray and Waggott have to balance that against the chances of reaching the playoffs.

After reading about the Charlton players yesterday I got thinking about Rovers situation as the start date of June 20th now seems cast in stone. We have two loan players who arguably have been amongst the mainstays of our team whose loan deals are due to expire ten days after the restart. Without them we are severely weakened and I don't believe we would really has say in whether they play beyond June 30th. The decision would lie with their parent club and the players themselves. Uppermost in the clubs and players minds must be fear of injury. Similarly we have several out of contract players who it seems will not offered deals as nothing has happened yet. These include Graham, Bell and Leutwiler who are all part of the first team squad. I saw Graham interviewed yesterday and he mentioned being out of contract but so far no offer of a new deal. He did however mention the possibility of monthly contracts. If Leutwiler and Walton are not available it leaves a massive void in the keeper area. Similarly Bell and Tosin would leave us exposed defensively. It will clearly be something Mowbray is aware of but something he doesn't have control over.

It had everything Andy. There was sadness, poignancy, laughter and other emotionally charged things which made it brilliant. It was a kind of social commentary from that time and it was apt that Liverpool was the setting. I have many favourite scenes but the one where Yosser is in the confessional box was tragicomedy. The redundancy party in the pub in the last episode was memorable too with the Shake Hands character.

If I remember correctly Andy Julie Walters was the screen wife of Michael Angelis in Boys from the Blackstuff. Boys from the Blackstuff was Alan Bleasedale at his finest.

I really don't understand your last sentence. For the majority on here it's Rovers and then generally other football falls behind. Along with my brothers we have been watching Rovers over 150 years and speaking to them they are so unmotivated and ambivalent towards football at the moment it's hard to envisage them getting season tickets whenever they are on sale. The last ten weeks have given many, many people a wake up call to other things that push football further down their priority list. Personally I have missed going to watch Rovers with friends and family but not the actual football itself which is hit and miss. There hasn't been a void left in my life through not being able to watch football and that is only the reasons I have cancelled my Sky Sports subscription.

I thought he was fantastic in Boys from the Blackstuff Andy. He also played a really good role in Auf Wiedersehen Pet.

Of course you hear them unless you are just being selective. It's a choice that people make and whilst it is one of my reasons for cancelling I know of quite a few who have simply said they can't afford it anymore and football has slipped down their list of priorities. You have to understand that there are differing views to yours.

The FA are still hopeful the Youth Cup can be completed. I don't know how clubs will be with regard to the scholars contracts coming to an end, probably before the suggested dates. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52864383

My Sky Sports subscription has been suspended and yesterday I dang Sky to cancel it completely. The pleasant young lady asked me why and I told her that I just don't want to watch football without any supporters inside the stadiums. I also said the last few weeks have confirmed a long held view that the EPL and Championship have become ogres with money being more important than anything. The fear of having to pay back broadcasting money has perversely been dressed up as integrity - a bigger oxy moron you would struggle to find.

Too much dithering for me. Clubs are now meeting on June 8th to decide how to end the Championship and League One. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52847826

Without quoting JHRovers post it's pretty much where I am. The silence from Waggott in the last couple of weeks is palpable and worrying. There has been plenty of time to put forward options whatever they might be and even an opportunity to talk to supporters groups but as far as I'm aware nothing has been done. From a fan base point of view it is crucial that the club try and maintain the current numbers but I really fear that, for a plethora of reasons it's going to dwindle alarmingly. The time has come for Waggott and his team to really earn their money and come up with proposals and radical innovations.

Who knows Stuart. Maybe this is why very few (if any) Championship clubs have given or offered refunds to season ticket holders. I have a recollection of Waggott alluding to this recently. If that is the case would refunds be available to season ticket holders who simply don't want to watch it via (from what I gather) poor streaming or even fans who don't possess a compuer?

Which begs the question when they are going to play/show Championship games. From that schedule it seems that every available slot is taken up.

They have but I they didn't at the time announce whether they paid a fee. If it transpires that they did they should have to pay the furlough money back in my view. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52249423

I wasn't aware that any staff at Rovers have been furloughed. My point was more generalised for all of football. The difference between the companies you mention is that they won't be spending money on transfer fees. Furlough has been a really good scheme but if football clubs (or any businesses) abuse it they should be punished.

I think the short answer mate is money.

He is self isolating for seven days as per the protocol. It's odd that after testing negative on the last round of tests he is now positive. I wonder if anybody he has come into contact with will also need testing now?

I'm talking about non playing staff who have been furloughed. Why should the taxpayers fund a furlough scheme and then clubs spend on transfer fees (and all the associated costs) for new players. Players taking ways deferrals is is different as they will get the difference paid eventually. That is funded by the club.

Another reason would be P&S as the rules currently stand. With income streams severely curtailed it may be that the rules are relaxed but as it stands it presents a major obstacle for clubs intended spend on new players. Alex Neil has suggested that clubs who furloughed staff shouldn't be allowed to sign players. From an ethical perspective I agree with him.

Brereton certainly wasn't booed at Birmingham. There were ironic cheers when he was substituted but (and I was there) it was from a really small group not the majority as you seem to be insinuating. I was sat in the first few rows that were available and it was barely audible from there. Nobody around me reacted.

There are a few huge games when at the time I was thinking we were hanging on but that could have been down to being fraught at being so close. This game was one of them when every second seemed like an hour and every Leicester attack convinced me they would score. But the feeling of winning them games certainly overrides the tension we go through.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52790371 An interesting piece from the Huddersfield owner who reckons 50 or 60 clubs could go bust. I haven't a clue on the numbers but I can see some clubs going to the wall or perhaps part time. The salary cap proposal for Leagues 1 and 2 is really sensible going forward but the defining period for lots of clubs will be between now and the time that paying customers can come back. Worrying times for football.