RevidgeBlue

Rhymes better with an "e" on the end of "Shit"!

What questions have I chosen to ignore and not answer?

Id wager there'll be some sort of sly dig about it somewhere along the way. "Those that would want to see us fail" or "Enemy within" type thing.

Be interesting to see what the crowd reaction is on Saturday. Will the call to arms be generally well received and lead to "Venky's out" type chants or will it provoke a sort of superfan "Rovers 'til I die" type backlash? Either would arguably be preferably to the morgue like atmosphere prevalent recently.

I can't understand why driving Eustace out wasn't the tipping point for everyone. They had the perfect manager for our current situation and either couldnt see it, or could and clearly didnt like what they saw!

I want to see more than "communication" from them or any other owners, you could communicate freely and still run the Club extremely badly but great post nonetheless. Sums up the last 15 years really well.

Exactly this. I WANT us to be winning the Champions League, the Premier League, the FA Cup and the League Cup every season. I know it's not going to happen ** but there's no point in being happy with just surviving, it's meant to be entertainment and a release from the often humdrum nature of everyday life. ** Then again back in the 70's and 80's I never in a million years expected to see us lift the League Title either!

Im not down a rabbit hole at all. You have this idea firmly planted in your head that you can't shake off that Im trying to deflect blame off the owners which simply isnt the case. It's their name over the door therefore everything ultimately tracks back to them. It really is as simple as that. However others shouldn't be completely blameless as you seem to think. Now for example we have imo one of our worst ever managers in Ismael. He needs to go whether the owners sell up tomorrow or not. But, you would no doubt try and twist that view round as me trying to deflect blame off the owners yet again.

There's no denying the owners overall record is atrocious, there's no getting round that. However for me any ambition to succeed within the Club seemed to perish once Mowbray got us back into the Championship and that sense came mainly from the manager himself. Wasn't it he who coined the infamous phrase, "It's not 1995 anymore". After that things looked briefly promising under JDT but then the Court case gave the owners and Waggott a convenient sounding excuse not to invest, same again under Eustace but they drove him away by refusing to support him. Now the situation seems completely hopeless, not only do they not try to pretend there's any ambition they're completely brazen and boast about the lack of it. "Play offs weren't the priority/the days of big money signings are over" ( Gestede) "Spending money doesn't guarantee success" (Pasha) Against this sort of backdrop I've said for a couple of seasons at least that we're only one bad manager away from oblivion. Well, now we've got him.

There's also always this undercurrent with Chaddy that he's a better and more loyal fan than everyone else because he'll always support the team no matter what blah blah blah and that is coming out again with his absolute refusal to countenance a boycott for even a single game. Personally I stopped going at the end of the Mowbray era because I was completely fed up with repeated failures to make the play offs etc even when it seemed impossible not to do so. I felt there was something very off about the Club even then. So I'm not boycotting because of the owners as such, if I felt there was suddenly a genuine desire to try and succeed within the Club Id hopefully be back. Unfortunately despite thinking there might be green shoots of recovery under both JDT and Eustace, overall since the time I last attended regularly things have got even worse, it seems we have a new disaster on more or less a weekly basis these days so there's absolutely no incentive for me to return at present. I fully accept that my long term absence makes me not as committed or as good of a supporter as say a mate of mine who has continued to go and who retained his season ticket. For present purposes though there should be no suggestion that anyone who boycotts for either a single game or longer is any less of a supporter than someone who refuses to do that. Nor should there be any criticism of anyone who refuses to boycott, even for a single game. I don't personally agree with that stance as I think if absolutely nothing is done the Club will die. It is however a matter of personal choice and anyone who doesn't want to boycott is perfectly entitled to that point of view.

I remember flicking through the Sky channels when the Sheff Wednesday boycott was on and although there weren't obviously literally zero people in, it did look like a game behind closed doors in the home areas, just the odd person dotted about here and there. It would be great if we could get a similar sort of take up here for one game.

Lol, chaddy and Masher frantically dashing about trying to play Whack a Mole.

Didn't seem to work v Derby.

I didnt make that post either. You've quoted part of a chaddy post.

Absolutely. But if people are already in the habit of deliberately staying away anyway it's a start.

Maybe, I never bought any of the over priced shite on the concourse when I was attending anyway.

Not wishing to sound like chaddy dismissing every idea out of hand but Im not sure that will work, it'd just give them an excuse to stop providing those services altogether. They'd probably love it. 🤔

Surprised Neil Duckworth (Ewood Spark) has put his name to that. Although always extremely loyal to the Club he is a very nice bloke and I would consider him a very level headed individual.

Well I turned 62 about three quarters of an hour ago so Im sat here contemplating the meaning of life, the Universe and everything with an Aldi bottle of Champagne ...... nah bollocks to that Im only worried about Rovers. If Im still here in 10 years time I hope the Club still is too! Good luck to anyone with any protest efforts. To coin another Churchill phrase " The definition of success is the ability to bugger on from one failure to another with no significant loss of enthusiasm". And an early Merry Christmas to one and all irrespective of any differences of opinion regarding the Club.

A great idea. You were brilliant in assisting us with the drafting of the letter trying to stop Waggott flogging off the training ground. Would you care to draft something up?

Ironically when his Granddad Derek Keighley was briefly Chairman before ill health sadly took him from us all too soon, I thought the Club displayed far more ambition than it did under Bill Bancroft. A then Club record fee of £80,000 for Duncan Mckenzie in the old 3rd Division etc......... Used to sit behind Derek in the old Nuttall St. Stand. Poor guy used to sit there chain smoking cigarettes every game looking like his life was on the line with every kick. His grand son however sounds a very confused individual. How can you go from being a proponent of FC Rovers (a notion I vehemently reject) to being full square behind the owners?

I think that's probably correct. Technically it's probably only a "public place" for the purposes of attending a football match. Not protesting. That said imo the optics would be terrible for the Club if they moved the Police in to break up a non violent protest.

Any idea whether it will actually be published over there? Could be very important

Not a bad statement BUT tbh I wouldn't mind "reckless spending" "unrealistic ambition" or "Premiership Football"! This game should be about dreams, not aiming to finish 21st in the League. The main problem with the Club is the complete and utter lack of ambition. There's no priority placed on winning football matches and trying to be successful, the only raison d'etre seems to be to try to develop players to flog on for a profit the second they show any promise and bring in just about enough money fo pay the inflated salaries of a few chosen Club officials. The statement almost makes it sound as though if they "communicated" with us everything would be ok. Well sorry, as I said in another post to RF99, Im not bothered whether they win any popularity contests as I'm not thinking of inviting them round for dinner anytime soon. If the Club was well run and the team was successful on the pitch I couldnt care less who the owners were (within reason) or if we didnt hear from them from one year to the next. I do agree 100% with the overall sentiment of the message though. Well done to all concerned and Please keep up the good work on behalf of most of us. Never give up, Never give Never give up.

We havent lost 15k imo, maybe 10k. If we lose another 4 or 5k from the current 9k though, I think that could be the tipping point. We won't know until it happens though will we? I haven't said anything about your own personal choice to attend games, I dont mind that. I recognise that there will be a proportion of fans like yourself who will always attend games no matter what. I was on about you pouring cold water on each and every protest idea that is mooted. "Won't work" "That's been done" etc etc. It's easy to say that, what are your suggestions to improve things?