RevidgeBlue

Devil's advocate mode: Lowe was only in charge for 3 games before they secured a permanent replacement. Problem was, he was one of the worst we've ever had.

Realistically Id say Johnson is going to be in charge for the next two games and we should be looking to make a permanent appointment before the game on the 14th. If however Johnson got 4-6 points and the option was (say) Chris Coleman, would you be busting a gut to appoint him just because he was "permanent"?

Not permanently. Might until the end of the season on big wages plus his usual massive bonus for staying up. (Despite him saying on Uber Eats(?) "He's done enough". Irrelevant as we probably wouldn't pay.

Having slept on it and if they were prepared to throw a shit ton of money at it I basically agree with the principle but Allardyce or Warnock for this season rather than Mowbray. Wouldn't be against Duff next season (What about the 2 Damien's?) Or if we're going down the ex Rover route, Bellamy (probably wouldn't come) or Savage (might?)

Absolutely.

It would do IF (and Im not suggesting he will) he won six on the bounce. He needs to be judged on a game by game basis for the rest of the season. If he loses the next two or three then obviously we would need to make a permanent appointment very quickly. If he did win six on the bounce, what are you going to do, replace him? The only exception to that would be if someone absolutely exceptional became available in the meantime who you didnt think you had any chance of getting. Whilst I dont think we're quite in Chris Coleman territory, not sure that will happen either given our current standing in the game. If Johnson does ok and well enough to keep us up I can't see the problem in him retaining it until the end ofcthe season to give us more time to find the best possible permanent candidate. The indications are he doesnt want it permanently anyway.

If you're somehow sneakily trying to blame the fans for Ismael's demise forget it. Unless you're appointing someone like Klopp, Guardiola or Dalglish in his prime, you're never going to get complete agreement. It's up to the manager to win round any detractors with results.

Think it's fair to say that he was no-one's first choice but nevertheless everyone was willing to give him a chance when he arrived. Unfortunately that goodwill dissipated almost immediately when he managed 1 point out of 18 from a team that had previously been competing for the play offs.

How so? Has he ever kicked a ball or managed professionally? (He may well have but Id never heard of him before he rocked up here) If the answer is he's been a "technical director" or "Head of" here there and everywhere that means less than nothing to me.

If we're hoping to emulate the Sparky success story of a former Wales manager Id rather go for Bellamy. Not a chance he'd want it mind.

Owen seems to get away scot free when blame is attributed. Presumably it was his "data" that led them to conclude Ismael was the "outstanding candidate" last time.

I doubt there's anything in the Coleman link as unattractive as we may feel we are. Hopefully just the usual red herrings being tossed about early in the betting market to relieve mug punters of some cash.

From a tactical point of view, If they've known they were thinking of getting rid of VI for a few days, they should have potted him before Saturday's game against Hull and got Johnson in for that one as well. The Hull game would have been a free hit for Johnson, no-one would have really expected us to win it and if he could have got 4 points from the two games, everyone would have considered that a really decent return and he could have kicked on with some confidence. Now, although Im far from convinced we'd have won tonight's game under Ismael, Johnson is under massive pressure, winning is probably the last realistic chance of survival and if if he does manage it, he'll get absolutely zero credit for it as its Wednesday. Hope he's really bold and changes it round substantially tonight. Change formation, put Tyjon/Joseph in, whatever. Just get them playing like they're enjoying it for once, get a decent amount of efforts on target (on the opposition goal, not our own) and the rest will hopefully take care of itself.

At least the local sunbed shops will have a beano.

1st bit agreed. 2nd part Ismael WAS the Owen Coyle/Steve Kean type! In fact his record was probably even worse by the end. We can't afford another

That does seem feasible. Hope the new manager/Coach rates Jorgensen or that could end up a very costly mistake.

That wouldn't have happened. 2 weeks or so ago he insisted he wasn't at all worried and we'd be fine when we got everyone back from injury.

Obviously he left because it's an absolute shit show here and he felt Derby were a Club with ambition. And results this season are completely bearing that out. Nothing whatsoever to do with the alleged extra £15k p.w. you've always been seemingly obsessed about. Being proved completely wrong and turning abusive. Well done. I wasn't rude with you.

Saying someone is a "sentimental" choice is saying they're a bad choice which is clouded by sentiment so effectively they're agreeing with you. BTW your pre season prediction we'd finish above Derby and "greedy" Eustace is looking worse by the week.

I think you're being very harsh on JH. No-one's banged on more than me about Ismael needing to be replaced but when I went to bed in the early hours of this morning I had no idea it was going to happen. I HOPED it was getting an increasingly odd look for Gestede and Pasha not to sack him but I didn't REALLY believe it would happen. Perhaps you'd better let me have the Euromillions numbers for tomorrow night with your enhanced psychic powers! 🙂

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Yet you had no problem with Ismael. What was it- "We shouldnt call for either the removal of the owners or Head Coach because it's completely beyond our control" Or words to that effect.

Really? People have said the same about Allardyce but he's sounded Ok when I've heard him. (Wasn't saying it was a realistic suggestion btw)

Is that another Merce hot tip or pure guesswork? I know nothing whatsoever about him but tuned into a bit of a Stockport lunchtime game recently and he was showing a lot of passion on the touchline. (They beat Huddersfield 1-0 with a goal deep into injury time) Would feel very underwhelming though.

If Carlsberg did appointments........ King Kenny and Gerrard until the end of the season, Gerrard thereafter.