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The agency links aside I'd love Mark Robins tbf.

Give over, was he 'eckers like. He'll never get another job anywhere near this sort of level again.

Having looked at the list of candidates on oddschecker I have to say that most of them look completely unrealistic for varying reasons. On there Wagner and Bilic were joint favourites at 5/2. Of the slightly more realistic sounding alternatives I'd go for Rowett or Bilic personally.

If he found it a pleasure he must enjoy losing every week then. I'm really not interesting in hearing anything Cantwell has to say. Having helped to get one Head Coach sacked Im sure it'll only be a few weeks before he's mouthing off on social media about how much more enjoyable it is under the new bloke.

Not wishing to have a go at you particularly Ricky but why do people keep portraying Ismael as some sort of fall guy? He knew the script when he came in and no way whatsoever he walked voluntarily, he'll never get a job at this sort of level again. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Nah. Complete with nipple you can tweak on the way past..........

Not sure I agree. There was quantity but no quality whatsoever last January. Not saying this is any better, but I dont think it's significantly worse. (As things stand) Lot will depend on how the two lads up front shape and of course it's subject to them not flogging Alebiosu at the last minute.

He was allegedly Waggott's first choice to replace Mowbray wasn't he, but we weren't prepared to pay for him to bring his extensive coaching entourage with him. Can't really see that changing.

Is it April 1st already?

Sounds like what Waggott should have been called when he was here!

I mean early lists are usually just a device to relieve mug punters of their money and the early favourite rarely gets the job. Carsley was long odds on initially when we were looking to replace Eustace wasn't he? And Wagner was reportedly down to the last two when Ismael was appointed. Is he working currently? That would rule him out. Suspect Duff is a lazy connection due to being a former Rover. He doesnt tolerate fools allegedly. What would people's views be on re-hiring JDT? Part of me thinks they should go crawling back over broken glass and admit they made a massive mistake last time and give him fairly free rein over the football side of things backed up by a decent budget. And yet even with that there's a nagging doubt. Id be fairly pleased with Bilic. Still not sure if it shouldnt be viewed as a temporary firefighting operation until the end of the season initially then reassess in summer. We'll eventually end up appointing Neil Warnock to bail us out when he's about 90 if we have to keep sacking managers every February. Guess we'll have to keep our eyes peeled and see who's having tea in the Wilpshire Hotel tonight!

Absolute rubbish Gav. He had to go. Should have gone in summer and in terms of this season at least a month too late but better than nothing. Unless of course they're thinking of not replacing him at all like Waggott but even then Id fancy Damien Johnson to have more of a chance of keeping us up than that plonker. Im delighted at the news. Doesn't matter who comes in, I feel now we have a slight chance of staying up as opposed to no chance.

I do quite like Martin Samuel on the whole but he isn't reading the underlying situation at all there. Yes on the surface the dissent might look harsh but we only finished 7th last year thanks to an excellent Head Coach we alienated and drove out. And it's happened twice since Mowbray left. And their eventual replacement is taking us down.

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Looks like the Mowbray link is a wind up thankfully but that doesn't change the fact we're in a world of trouble. As you would expect from this shower the whole Ismael situation has been horrendously mismanaged. After Eustace was driven out the obvious thing to do then was to appoint a wise old head until the end of the season just to keep their hand on the tiller, and keep things ticking over. Then in summer, reassess. In the meantime, don't change too much and get someone in who would get the players feeling good about themselves. Someone like Warnock. Instead we got this chump and play off hopes evaporated immediately with a home draw followed by five defeats from his first 6 games. To say that was a disaster would be an understatement but bizarrely we'd given him a 3.5 Yr deal which seems ludicrous given he's barely lasted 50 games anywhere else he's been. A dire summer of recruitment followed and predictably Ismael has lived down to expectations and then some. Should have been sacked in summer after making such a balls up of the play offs and really with only two home wins on the board you could quite easily have sacked him at any point this season. Definitely no later than the Wrexham home game on New Year's Day when it was clear there was nothing left in the tank. Now due to the incompetence of management we're still stuck with the problem that he has 2.5 years still left on his contract and the January transfer window has been and gone. In my view: Worst possible case scenario: Ismael stays 2nd worst case scenario: Ismael is sacked and Mowbray is appointed until the end of the season. (In no way an endorsement of Mowbray, but shows how bad Ismael is) 3rd worst case scenario: Sack Ismael and give it someone like Damien Johnson/David Lowe until the end of the season. Ideal case scenario: Sack Ismael and make a decent appointment. If we were prepared to chuck some money at it, still wouldn't mind an Allardyce or a Warnock type until the end of the season to lift the mood around the place - possibly with the help of a younger assistant. Longer term if we go down we need to identify an up and coming young manager/Head Coach. Probably a vain hope but as I said at least a couple of months ago, it's a stark choice in my opinion. We either stick with Ismael and accept we're going down or we make a change and TRY to do something about it.

How many fingers have you got on each of your hands? We've only had 4 since 1975 if my Maths are correct!

Do you think I was lying when I said I was told Waggott said there were funds available, or my acquaintance was lying to me, or Waggott was lying to my acquaintance? The promotion bonuses seem to have been an actual thing though. It would have been odd for Waggott to tell the truth about the bonuses but lie about a fictitious war chest imo.

They might have been carrying long standing niggles or knocks but if we'd have needed to win that game to finish 2nd, Im sure they'd have played. Last game of the season, all summer to get fit.

There's no "burden of proof" on me whatsoever. It's a discussion board not a Court room. I've told you specially why I believe there were funds available (Waggott) and why (imo) Mowbray wouldnt spend them (Didn't want to fail and look bad). If you choose not to believe that that's your prerogative entirely. All you've come up with is "I dont think anyone would do that" when Mowbray has himself admitted he didnt like asking the owners for money.

Not a chance.

Why do you believe everything Mowbray says? Edit: To me he was all about self preservation. Nothing else.

I was fuming travelling down to Charlton (hoping to see us win the L1 Title) when the team news came on and we heard he'd effectively thrown it by resting everyone. Far from the worst thing he did but that sort of summed him up. No ambition for the Club whatsoever.

"You can never have too many (decent) strikers" (copyright: Neil Warnock) My only concern is whether any of them are decent.

All that said, as much as I can't stand him, on a strictly short term basis until the end of the season he'd STILL be a better bet than Ismael to keep us up. Wouldn't want him having any say whatsoever in the Club beyond that though. Definitely the second worst option. Id sooner put Damien Johnson or David Lowe in temporary charge before Mowbray