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Another beauty from 1905/06 presumably in slightly lighter Cambridge Blue.

Yes I would buy something similar to that shown on the picture of Crompton. I very rarely buy shirts these days but was hoping to get the anniversary shirt as a one off. However I wouldnt even have that white monstrosity (which doesnt even represent Club Colours) as a gift. You could do far worse than reproduce faithfully that first known strip from the Alexandra Meadows photo in 1878. It's quite quirky with the different coloured sleeves, the correctly proportioned Maltese Cross and the small numbering on the front of the shirt. And of course blue and white halves.

You wouldnt reproduce a picture with a bloke in it who was never actually the groom either.

Shows how easy it is to con people, (initially at least) From what I can see Plainfield Asset Management was set up in 2004 to manage funds of other people's money. Whether the Company itself had any actual intrinsic value, or connection to the person purporting to be Dan Williams, or potential involvment in a Rovers takeover ,who knows, but in any event as I posted earlier they were declared insolvent and wound up in 2013 and as early as 2008 (when negotiations were still supposedly ongoing) they were deemed "93% illiquid" and investors were barred from taking their money out.

There's a few different possible variations of him "existing". a) He actually was Dan Williams an American Businessman who was genuinely minted and who could afford to take over the Club but who backed out of any deal because the terms weren't right for him. b) He actually was Dan Williams an American businessman but someone who in reality didnt have a pot to piss in. c) He was someone who for a laugh invented the persona "Dan Williams" - lifelong Rovers fan hailing from Lytham St Annes turned American multimillionaire (who no-one's ever previously come across or heard of) - and invented any personal link with potential backers some of whom might have existed. I can't decide between b) and c) myself but I'd be incredibly surprised if it was a). Still not a scrap of info about him on the Internet to this day apart from the alleged attempts to take over Rovers and the Rhinos neither of which came to fruition Going back to Nixon (which was the original point) he backed this bloke like he was Shaikh Mansour even though he was almost certainly b) or c). Which again leads to suspicions that he is open to promoting agendas for cash, however vacuous they may be.

Yep that my next thought! Seems they're 5th favourites at around 11/1. Morocco heavy favourites at a shade over 2/1.

Sadly there are barely any pubs left to crawl between these days.

Runs from Dec 21st to Jan 18th I think.

Absolute disaster for us if we lose him for up to a month plus warm up/ recovery time either side of the tournament.

(Opens can of worms) 🤣 Id agree with that. Bristol Rovers are quarters not eights.

Not sure why we just didnt go with that first known strip. Would have been sufficiently unique with the design, the Maltese Cross and the small numbers on the front of the shirt underneath the cross. Some beauties slightly later on and in the early 1900's as well.

The Cup actually came back to Blackburn 4 years in a row - Blackburn Olympic won it in 1883. Their ground apparently was at the top of Shear Brow on the site of St Mary's College. Wouldn't it have been cool if both Clubs were still going?

Again, it seems from that article that no-one over there had ever REALLY heard of him either, from memory I couldnt find any trace of Princeton Global Housing at the time either. Reliant on a mystery partner again as well. WUM or if he did actually exist a fantasist imo.

Don't think "the incline" would have stretched anywhere near as far up as the the Dog Inn and Revidge. Maybe part of the way. There's a mild incline from Leamington Rd up to St Silas's Rd then it gets a lot steeper the other side of St. Silas's Rd. Don't think we need to look any further than shirt of two halves excellent post and Roger B's dilligent sleuthing

I had a quick look at that again last night and found a 2008 LT article from Andy Nield saying the "deal" was off with someone purporting to be Williams saying Rovers wanted too much money etc etc. At the time there was no trace whatsoever of Williams or his Company or any of his business activities on the Internet nor any photos of him, the only photo purporting to be him was that single College graduation style snap. Nield's article said that Williams' partners would have been a Connetticut based venture capital Company called Plainfield Asset mananagement. A search of Plainfield Asset Management now on Wikipedia shows that that it is a defunct Company started in 2005, was wound up in 2012 and by 2008 was "93% illiquid" with Customers barred from withdrawing their investment. I thought at the time, and am even more convinced in light of the above, it was a complete hoax, if anyone thinks different, that's fine.

It's evidence that a motion might have been passed at some point It's not evidence that we ever actually wore the kit. It's a bit like convicting someone of murder on the basis that they said they were going to do it 12 months previously with zero actual evidence they eventually followed up on the threat. In any event, even if we did start in a white kit, we know we did swap to blue and white halves so it seems the founders must not have liked the white and swapped to the blue and white halves as a nod to their old school colours. We dont know if we played in a white kit at all, for a week, a month, a season, or just as a temporary measure because the blue and white ones weren't ready. We do know we were in blue and white halves by 1898 (Edit: Sorry 1878!) and of course they could have been in use for some time prior to that so if the white shirt ever existed at all, it must have proved unpopular (with the founders) and been an extremely short lived thing. But hey, let's use it as an anniversary shirt 150 years later.

Nixon's piece de resistance has to be his unwavering support for an American taking over the Club pre Venky's by the name of Dan Williams, a seemingly fictitious character who it's far from clear ever existed. Someone was pulling his chain big style with that one.

If you're on about that Kevin Maguire fella, I wouldnt put him in anything like the same bracket as Nixon. On the whole I think he is reasonably well informed, fair and balanced.

Blimey not half some revisionism going on here - Sorry, Hedges is an absolute shocker. Corry Evans, Jason Lowe and Sam Gallagher enjoyed extended periods at the Club as well for some unknown reason.

Strange one that unless it's a mistake. Wellington Rd today runs between Galligreaves Way and Stancliffe St. On the way to Ewood. Completely different area.

At best part of the area hatched in yellow above would be the "incline". What's the small picture insert meant to be? I dont recognise it from round Revidge way.

Realistically I can't see the Forum members themselves proposing a vote of no confidence in anyone. You'd hope though that the individuals in question would have the decency to do the right thing and fall on their swords and resign because as DE has correctly identified above the Forum is now a) a complete waste of time and b) is complicit in the Club manufacturing a false narrative of events.

Disagree on this Parson - whilst a motion may have been passed at some point that we should play in white shirts, there's no evidence to say we actually did so, whether it be for a week, a month or a season. Who's to say there wasn't a change of heart the following week? Either way by 1878 we were already in the recognisable blue and white halves, not just shirts with white in as you're making out above, so any period we did play in white for must have been so insignificant as to be virtually irrelevant. "The choice of Club Colours also had its roots in the Public School background which so many of its members shared. Both of the Hargreaves brothers and Doc Greenwood were Old Malvernians and it was decided to copy their quartered shirt design, but to replace the traditional green with a Cambridge blue." Blackburn Rovers - The Complete Record Mike Jackman 2009. That information is logical and consistent. What was the original source for that assertion and why is it suddenly any less compelling than some minutes which seem to have subsequently come to light?

Terrible comparison. Alf knew the system he wanted to play in advance and chose his players to suit the system. He merely swapped Hurst for Greaves. Vi started with a system which didn't work and was forced into a change of system due to injury. Doesn't really matter if we keep winning using the new system however though.

John/OTG, I keep offering you the opportunity to proffer some sort of plausible explanation as to why this happened if correct or to deny it if it didnt. Any comment to make?