RevidgeBlue

No Sky in Blues Bar........

Well if nothing else it was our fault......

So theoretically - other than the fact it hasnt been done before - there'd be nothing preventing the EFL saying that the last 10 mins plus ET should be played 11 v 10. It won't happen but it does specifically provide for it in the rules "may be ordered to be replayed in full or in part". Wonder if faced with the prospect of having to pay for Ipswich to come up and maybe stay somewhere overnight Pasha would rather concede the 3 points?

So by the same token Im guessing by extension you now can't stand Ismael any more either as he was in agreement with calling the game off?

I daren't! Sorry dont agree on your other points either. We're far from the only ones to have owners who subsequently turned out to be disastrous initially approved and if we send in transfer registrations late or with clerical errors that's our fault. ( I suspect the latter were deliberate anyway)

I'm not an engineer so can't comment on your opinion at the end. Why though do you think Waggott thought it was possible? (According to Mike Graham) Edit: Regardless of cost and time a permanent long term solution needs to be undertaken with mitigating measures such as pitch covers and squeegee (sp) machines utilised in the interim until the problem is fixed. You can just brush it off and shrug your shoulders on the basis of cost or that it's not completely straightforward.

6 points made but none of them valid. I can just imagine the reaction on here if we had a game called off at 1-0 down with 10 mins to go at our opponenent's place because their pitch was unfit and the EFL awarded them the points. Is if fair to Ipswich to deprive them of the chance to equalise with 10 -15 mins to go? Is a game still "done and dusted" at 1-0 with 20 mins of normal time to go? That's just as arbitrary. If we get a game called off at half time due to our knackered drainage later in the season and we're 2-0 up - do we get the points then as well? If you have to play another game so be it. Players could get injured at any time, not just in that particular game.

Why do we know they "hate us"? Can you cite any examples?

Come on, you know the EFL hate us, all referees are biased against us, and there's a conspiracy against us in general. (Despite the fact the ref awarded us a penalty and reduced our opponents to 10 yesterday) In this instance it would actually help if the EFL threatened to suspend our membership of the League unless we take immediate steps to put temporary measures in place to alleviate the problem pending a permanent solution being carried out in due course. Sadly I dont suppose anything will be done at either end and it will happen again and again.

Completely disagree. The game was nowhere near "done and dusted" at 1-0 with potentially up to 15 mins to go. If it had been 5-0 with a minute or two to go I'd agree It was very unlucky on the team, but at the end of the day it's the Club's fault for not being willing to spend money on resolving the longstanding drainage problems which we've known about for some time.

We wouldnt have a leg to stand on I dont think for the reasons I outlined above.

There's no way they can award us 3 points when it's our fault our pitch isn't fit for purpose and the game was only at 1-0 with 10 mins plus injury time to go. If we were 1-0 up at their gaff and the same thing happened, or it was here and we were 5-0 up with a minute to go there would at least be an argument to be had I'd imagine.

If we dont then Ipswich will just be awarded the 3 points. What good does that do us or Ipswich's promotion rivals?

That was just certain sections of the pitch as I recall. (Round the penalty spot etc) May be wrong

Stop trying to defend the indefensible John. So why then, according to Mike Graham, after the previous debacle to this one,did Waggott wish to put in place a solution (that Pasha turned down on the basis of cost) if it was allegedly undoable? You'll correct me if Im wrong on this but as far as I'm aware the major infrastructure of the pitch (drainage etc) hasnt been done since it was built over 30 years ago and a complete pitch replacement hasn't been done in years if at all, with for as long as I can remember the Club choosing to merely undertake the cheaper option of turning over the soil on the top part of the pitch. We never got these problems when the drainage system was new. If it needs upgrading/renovating or the method of drainage has simply been superceded by events, the work needs doing otherwise this will happen again and again. We're (temporarily at least) playing in the second tier of English football, not the Dog and Duck competing in a Sunday Pub League. As it stands the pitch is currently unfit for purpose.

chaddy - if it had been the other way round you'd have been delighted with the abandonment and would be hailing it as exactly the correct call. You're just gutted that it was not possible to complete the last ten minutes of the game which is understandable, but to then call out other posters for having the correct opinion because you're disappointed is very poor form. The only question now is, does the underlying problem get sorted or do we have to witness the same sort of scenario again and again?

Again I could have sworn I viewed the ManUre game from the upper tier of the new JW stand which if thats the right Wimbledon game would mean the stand would have had to have opened between 03/01/94 and 02/04/94 yet I dont remember it opening mid season.

Ok thanks - Im obviously wrong with my recollection of when the new JW stand opened.

Same opponents but are you sure that's the same game? I thought the new JW stand opened well before that.

I was still in the old Nuttall St stand at the time so I doubt it was.

Me too! I was telling Bill Fox to get the ******* off the pitch!

Nearest to it I can remember was pre Jack Walker, a biblical deluge just before a game against the old Crazy Gang from Wimbledon, Vinnie Jones etc al, which left huge pools of standing water on the pitch and resulted in the game being abandoned with everyone in the ground. No issues at all for years after the New Ewood was built until relatively recently.

Spot on. It would sum up the Venky's period of ownership if we lost the replay and skimping on the pitch infrastructure sent us down by less than 3 points this season.

You might have a point but surely it's incumbent on Rovers to sort their own solution out?

We put astronauts on the moon in 1969. It shouldn't be beyond the wit of man to come up with a solution, they just dont want to spend any money on it. Or on anything else for that matter.