RevidgeBlue

Thank you. I do seem to remember Tom's title was Club Secretary and Sylvester was dubbed football Secretary but again I stand to be corrected.

Yup.

So Silvester, who if memory serves me was appointed by Williams and Finn as Football Secretary years ago and worked for years without any issue whatsoever, all of a sudden has lost the ability to complete a deal anymore and it just happens to coincide with the period since Broughton's been at the Club? Righty ho then.

Convenient.

What are you talking about? Are they going to sack themselves?

If true, what a fucking joke. Make Sylvester the sacrificial lamb and Waggott/Broughton come out completely unscathed. Broughton for the second time and Waggott for about the 6th time for various things. There's no hope.

What I meant was - accept responsibility for something thats not your fault and just walk out without a pay off. It affects your future marketability. If you've done nothing wrong , resign and take them to Court at a later date and/or negotiate a severance package by mutual consent.

And with good reason it seems. As for the second paragraph behave yourself chaddy. Waggott is now responsible for the Commercial side of the Club (and is failing miserably) Broughton is Director of FOOTBALL and is responsible for footballing matters. (And is failing miserably) He also specifically said that procedures had been put in place following the O Brien debacle to prevent this sort of thing happening again.

That much is obvious but what has it got to do with a failure to get the loan deal over the line?

He's not to blame if a decision has been made to switch from Permanent transfers to loans obviously. But the mechanics of getting the loan deal over the line are clearly his responsibility. Unless someone within the Club (2 obvious candidates) are deliberately sabotaging the deals. In which case he won't resign. No-one in their right minds resigns over something that isn't their fault.

Why do people keep repeating the same line? It's getting tiresome. It's EVERYTHING to do with the owners because they keep employing chances like Waggott and Broughton then take no action when they constantly fuck up. Absolutely zero accountability.

It's unbelievable that he survived the O Brien debacle. He should have been sacked then but wasn't and look where we are now as a result- twelve months on and something similar has happened again. In that respect the Club have got what they deserved for the lack of accountability. He's DOF so this sort of stuff is his responsibility. People want it both ways, if Waggott does something awful everyone rightly wants to blame the owners because it's their name over the door. The opposite seems to apply with GB though even though transfer business is firmly within his remit as DOF. Everyone scrambles to try to absolve him for responsibility for matters clearly within his remit. His recruitment has been shite as well imo. (I know you disagree so let's not run through merits of individual players for the zillionth time.) Suffice to say I think we saw what JDT thought of it with only one of the six available signings starting the game on Saturday. Not convinced he'll go this time anyway. He'll probably attempt to bull shit his way out of it and come up smelling of roses for a second time. Say what you like but these O Brien and Mcguire type debacle have only started occurring since his arrival at the Club.

Good to hear from you unleaded, was wondering where you'd gone and was hoping you'd post so we could get a flavour of what was REALLY going on. No surprise whatsoever to hear we've made ourselves persona non gratis with players and agents alike. I can't see a way outbof that until the regime changes completely. Having decided to restrict ourselves to loans with a view which will never be exercised however, how did we even manage to cock up one of those?

How do you know? (GB that is)

Where have I said that? I was merely putting forward my point of view as to the likely culprit. Why would the owners specifically sanction a loan deal for Mcguire only to order it be sabotaged less than 24 hours later? In any event regardless of who sabotaged it or whether it was gross incompetence it's still ultimately their fault as they continue to employ these chancers and I doubt there'll be any accountability this time either.

"Scapegoat" - right. Bit like saying if Waggott was fired he'd been scapegoats.

Maybe writing his speech wondering how to make the transfer window sound like a success especially if Mcguire falls through and/or briefing Counsel to waste money on another unsuccessful appeal.

Be an impressive accomplishment for our DOF if we go from 7th to relegation within 2 years of him taking up his post.

Isn't the usual arrangement these days that outgoing managers are paid in installments and the agreement is that any arrangement is reduced or stopped altogether if they find another job?

Errrmmmm.........

Well Waggott/Suhail specifically. I've no idea what's going on but it's not good for the reputation of the Club to put it mildly and if the Mcguire deal goes the same way as the O Brien one then it's the innocent players stuck in the middle you have to feel sorry for.

Any sign he's unhappy like JDT? Not a chance, another one riding the gravy train with Waggott until the bitter end

Nailed it.

Yep. Steve/Suhail.

It seems pretty obvious permanent fees have been blocked. We just seem to want to flush our money away completely albeit at a slower rate on loan fees. Outward deals seem to go through no problem as well.