RevidgeBlue

Who knows. Why would the owners sanction O Brien and then deliberately scupper the deal (according to some)? Appearances? Is it not probable that Broughton has complete autonomy within a certain budget and anything over and above that has to be considered on an individual case by case basis?

We know JDT wanted Batth but how do we know it wasn't Broughton who vetoed it? TBF he seems completely sold on "the model"and turning us into the Crewe Alexandra of the Championship.

Yeah we've been through this before! My recollection was Ken Furphy took Field and Terry Garbutt (?) to then 1st Div Sheff Utd when he left and there was then a very unsatisfactory period with Dick Dinnis as caretaker. Lee then came towards the end of that season and completely rebuilt the side over the close season. Whether the Field money (£75k was it?) paid for the new signings I wouldn't like to say. We made a lot of signings and there was quite a gap between the two events.

To be fair we don't know this. As it's a new model Broughton might have been given complete autonomy on the football side of things and may have been told he can have x% to spend. I think it's pretty clear JDT doesn't choose the players coming in, he won't play them half the time and with good reason.

When was the last time we sold our best/most valuable player, replaced him with 3 or 4 cheaper ones and improved as a result? Edit: If he goes, it won't improve us on the pitch imo even if a large %age is reinvested. We need to squeeze Palace until they squeak on this one as it'll have a detrimental effect on the pitch so we need to at least max out the fee.

Quite a difference between 15 and 20 and an even bigger difference between 15 and a deal that's worth at least £20m now and which could eventually net us 30m plus if he does particularly well. I just can't get my head round people saying 15 is reasonable. I accept his value will plummet if we go down so that's a bit of a gamble but ideally you'd be wanting him to stay until summer at least for footballing reasons if nothing else.

It's not even age that's the problem. For me if you're good enough you're old enough. However it seems pointless signing players that aren't good enough now and who are maybe ones for the future/maybe not when the first X1 appear to be hurtling towards relegation.

Must have suddenly found £500 k up front for O Riordan though? Might have got it from savings elsewhere then were just checking the Court case didn't go the wrong way?

You can see what's going to happen here, we'll string it out until the last minute then either get no-one in or someone fairly crap in on loan and claim it was too late to do anything else. It would be nice to be proved wrong.

We can all see it but........

The contract situation with Wharton is completely different to Rothwell though. I'm absolutely speechless that any genuine Rovers fan thinks £15m is a reasonable fee for Wharton.

Just about sums it up perfectly. At one point the V's used to dig their feet in and hold out for decent fees, it has been just about their only redeeming feature although my stalker roverfan99 may disagree. We'll soon see if that's still the case or whether it's no (un) reasonable offer refused.

Pays a few bills for a month or two. It's all short term ism with Waggott in charge.

I agree with your final paragraph.

You said 18m "with" add ons if we're being pedantic.

Ah - wonder where you'd gone - you usually turn up at transfer window time to peddle the Company line. Disagree completely. £15 m is NOT a lot of money for someone of that age and potential, it's absolutely derisory. We need to be looking at at least £20m now with the potential for at least another £10m in add ons at a later date. Depends how desperate we are for money of course but if Palace sneak the deal through at something close to £15m they'll have had us over a barrel and given us a right old rogering.

You're not a Rovers fan are you?

I took the post to mean a total of £18m including add ons. Terrible deal if that's the case, the player's neither here nor there.

What a dreadful deal that would be from our point of view. If he went ought to be minimum £20m plus very substantial add ons. As for a player coming in temporarily on loan for a few games, who cares? Doesn't help us next season. Edit: Looks like the player in question has never scored a goal above League 1 level either. Much like Hirst before he came here.

Wouldn't be for long even if he doesn't get sacked.

I thought it was coincidental that the bid was made on the same day as the supposed Court hearing. Palace trying to ratchet up the pressure on us? "Conspiracy theory hat on" Not so much as a dicky bird about the outcome of the Court Hearing either way. Odd or not? Presumably Venky's would have had representatives there who would have informed the Club of the outcome?

So you don't think Travis, Buckley, Pears, Pickering, Hyam, Scott Wharton, Carter, Brittain, Garrett, Tronstadt, Sigurdsson, Hedges, Gallagher Vale Markandy or Leonard would raise any funds if they left? I'd be disappointed if Scott Wharton left and I think Garrett has a lot of potential, Leonard to a lesser degree. The others I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over. The only two we really need to keep are Szmodics and Adam Wharton who ironically will probably be the first ones to go.

Pay Waggott's and Broughton's wages for 2 months. Was he any good?

Are you forgetting about the part whereby the Indian Court have apparently said no net funding is to be allowed for transfers? Therefore if we're to spend any money on transfers whilst restrictions are still in place Broughton will HAVE to wheel and deal, that part isnt his fault, it's the owners fault, but unfortunately it's the situation we find ourselves in. Holy Cow Batman, it's like trying to beat your head against a brick wall.

Surely we won't even consider an amount as low as that.