The fishing's good today I see.

So what we're saying is he should be sacked but we can't afford to do so?

But not in the Boardroom I fear.

And if all that fails there's a dodgy keeper to chuck a few into the back of the net.

I'm not completely against you on that, if you take the view that the likes of Nyambe, Travis and Lenihan would have come through under any manager anyway there's only really the acquisitions of Dack and Armstrong that are a positive. Against that we've no keeper going forward still have vastly inferior versions of Mulgrew and Graham and Gallagher has deteriorated markedly from a lowly starting point of not being that good in the first place. And the purchases of Gallagher and Brereton have screwed us up FFP wise. At least pe lockdown regs.

if TM is a client of HSH then I pointed out a while ago that Smallwood was also definitely a client of theirs and this was a really unhealthy conflict of interest as TM might feel obliged to act in the player's interest rather than the Club's. Since then of course we've seen this play out in practice with Smallwood sitting on his arse doing nothing for 12 months on full pay, and then getting a short term contract extension to boot.

Shortly after Jan 2019 window for me.

Fair comment. It appears the owners don't want the indignity back at home of one of their businesses going bust and up to press have been prepared to lob in eye watering amounts of money to keep us open but on the other hand don't have either sufficient interest or sufficient expertise to keep a really close eye on what's going on or nip something quickly in the bud when it clearly isn't working.

Could it not be increased on appeal? The more I see of it the more blatant a red it was. He was upset he'd been fouled by one player and didn't get it so he ran over and took a wild swipe at another.

To be fair, what have they done wrong since we were relegated from the Championship? They didn't put any pressure on Mowbray to sell anyone when we dropped into League 1 and gave him further funds to strengthen. Since going up he's been allowed to spend £12m on two absolute duds (so far) and brought in countless other players permanently or on loan hardly any of whom have come off. If they have a fault at the moment it seems to be in not twigging that Mowbray has brought his own man in as his boss and not paying close enough attention to what is actually going on down at Ewood. Yet in the past they've been criticised for not leaving things to "the football men". I don't think you can criticise the support they've given the Club over the last 3 years though, albeit I would have dispensed with Mowbray 18 months ago.

For me that's too late by that stage Gav, that's next season wasted as well. I expect he'll be here until he chooses to leave though sadly.

Nor those against Wigan when according to tonight's commentators the only problem was we couldn't take our chances. They're all insulting our intelligence. There's all the difference in the world between playing well but failing to take your chances and the dross we've witnessed during the last two games. And it happens every time we get in a half decent position. Like night following day.

Been saying it for the last 18 months so might as well reiterate it once more, we'll never get anywhere with Mowbray in charge. That will never change even allowing for the occasional glimmer of hope created by the odd good result which even I was gullible enough to temporarily fall for after the Bristol City game.

Managers tend to have a very inflated sense of their own ability and there would surely be some up and coming talents either here or abroad who'd relish the chance to come here. The problem is, he got Waggott his job and the admiration is reciprocal, Waggott seems to think we have Pep Guardiola in charge so you're right, he probably is bombproof. We need Roy Keane as Director of Football for 12 -18 months.

Have to disagree. The more I've seen of it after the game the worse it gets. Brereton was annoyed because he'd been fouled by another player and just went over and took a swipe at the guy on the ball in frustration. No attempt to play the ball at all. I can't see much distinction between that and him just kicking another player with the ball out of play. Violent conduct and I'd be very surprised if it was overturned.

Be interesting to see if it he defends BB to the hilt or not. In the past if someone like Bennett had done it it would have been the worst decision in the world from the referee whereas if Travis or Buckley had done it they're young players who need to learn etc.....

Yes. I've been really impressed with the quality of the picture on the I follow stream but I will struggle listen to those to trying to put a shiny gloss on the indefensible in future games. Might be the mute button from now on.

That's it in a nutshell.

The worst thing about tonight is that it gives Mowbray the excuse to hide behind the sending off.

Don't think Brereton has any defence whatsoever. He just took a swipe at the bloke and had no chance whatsoever of getting the ball. Sometimes it would be a yellow but I dont think you can complain at all about getting a red. It's completely unnecessary and not worth the risk.

So his solution? Start with no-one down the middle! Edit: Brereton very stupid there, despite the reaction from the Rovers commentating team.

Armstrong off? Seen it all now.

Spot on as well. It's an easy game he tries to massively over complicate.

100%.

Better in terms of overall play, but playing this weird formation I don't think we look as if we could score if we played until this time next week. The two Rovers commentators seem to think we're playing like Liverpool.