RevidgeBlue

Whether we did or didn't meet him you can't give anyone credit for players that don't actually end up here!!

If we're met with that question I guess the answer will be exactly the same as the excuse that will be given for not bringing anyone in - I.e. "We tried our best and thought we had a couple of deals over the line but the January window is very difficult"

If Szmodics stays as well. Who else is going to score any?

A couple of million is a fortune to us at the moment. We can't afford £500 k for the guy from Crewe.

"Sigh" So you think we'll no longer be under any restrictions by then?

Replaced by someone on loan with the plaintiff excuse "It was too late to get anyone else in".

I know we need them but if we're looking longer term we'd be better hoping we can survive this season rather than accept a heavily discounted sum now. It does sound like the thing a penny pinching short term operator like Waggott might try though.

What's the record fee for a League 1 or 2 player? Again genuine question as I have absolutely no idea. Edit: to be fair it appears to be Fabian Delph. 9.5m Euros. More than I expected but not what we'd hope for.

Yes, the Court would probably just say, you've got your £20m, you don't need to transfer any more money out of the Country now. For this reason I don't expect any real business either in or out will be concluded until after the funding is approved but I have to say I'm not optimistic thereafter. Especially with Broughton tasked with finding replacements.

How much would Adam Wharton be worth if we were relegated? Genuine question as I've absolutely no idea but I'd have thought you'd be lucky to get £3m. That's where the "model" of not putting any pressure on results falls down.

I'm guessing that this is not something that's a realistic proposition but a brainwave you've come up with. IF we did this we'd have to tempt Arsenal with a substantial discount - why would we want to do that when we're so strapped for cash?

Why do you think we could do that and why do you think Arsenal would want to do that? Genuine question as I've not seen that suggested anywhere before?

I'd suggest our position is a good deal worse than no man's land. You'll be uttering the immortal phrase "We're too good to go down" next!

He was decent enough upon the return from Covid and still very young at that point.

Should have had his contract extended years before to preserve his value. Nothing to do with accepting /not accepting offers at a later date. As far as the Club were concerned he was a £7m asset/development project, but you just let his contract run down because you don't want to upset a group of other players with no resale value? Good old Uncle Tone.

Brereton probably didn't want to go having had his eyes on going to Villareal on a pre contract agreement for some time. So yes, nothing you can do in that instance, you cant force a player to leave. Sorry you're unable to grasp that basic point. It has also been pointed out many times that you're judging that situation with the benefit of hindsight. He was our top scorer and we missed out on the play offs by one point so it wasn't that bad a decision, one more point somewhere over the course of the season and if we'd have scraped through the play offs everyone would have been saying what a brave and inspired decision it was to keep him. Extremely fine margins.

Other than the fact it makes it look like they are doing something.

Not a lot you can do by the time he's decided to leave on a free. The situation should have been sorted out by Waggott/Mowbray well before that. Ditto the others.

That's nothing new, it's been the case for a season and a half at least as far as I'm aware. We don't order enough stock

The thing I was wondering was, it seems to be widely reported that the Court approved £11m worth of funding last time. What period did that cover and why are we having to go back only 3 months or so later? At the same rate that equates to £44m p.a. Worth of funding rather than the £20m its accepted they put in.

I understand most thinking like that however as one or two like den have said I really don't think administration would be the simple guaranteed long term solution most people think it would be.

How much did they cost - about £7.5m in total? And sold for about £36m? If the Walker Trust had sanctioned a replacement for Savage when he broke his leg we'd probably have made the Champions League again. But they refused.

As I said above from the John Williams Manual of Excuses #1 !

And I don't think Waggott has finished yet..... God knows if there'll be anything left by the time he departs. Probably be ground sharing with Preston and back training at Pleasington trying to avoid the dog turds.

I didn't rate Saxton, the guy who was the best at making something out of nothing was Howard Kendall by far. Overall you'd have to say Dalglish was best as he was probably the only one with the experience nous and charisma who could have got us over the line to win the title. Allardyce did a job of sorts for us but he'd be quite a way down my list - behind the likes of Furphy, Jim Smith and Mackay. Mark Hughes did an absolutely remarkable job with no backing from the Board or previous owners. Nicer problems to have given our current situation.