RevidgeBlue

Dry weekend sadly.

Yep. Those bloody awful owners eh.........

Bit harsh to bracket Holtby in with those other players but otherwise fair point. Add in to that paying Mulgrew £1m p.a. for two seasons to play for League one Clubs.

You might have half a point if you didn't continually give Gallagher (who has done far less than BBD even in that form) a free pass.

How can you possibly be positive when we've just dropped two points from a winning position and in general are plummeting down the table like a stone?. As the other poster said it's difficult to get enthused when we're obviously headed for a 15th to 16th place finish after being third at one point and even more dispiriting that had we stayed in the play off positions it seemingly wasn't part of the Club's plan in any event.

Two mins in ten in the League, God knows where we'll end up finishing.

Really? Seem to be in a minority of one but thought he was useless. Hedges Mark two. How do players like him, Hedges, Gallagher, Evans, Bennett, Lowe etc carve out a lengthy and successful career In football? They've no talent whatsoever. As for the game Itself, dear me. Less said the better. Believe BBD hasn't signed for anyone yet so he needs to get his head back in the game. Pickering is still an absolute liability defensively. Though the much maligned Scott Wharton played well JDT has been let down in massive fashion by GB in the transfer window but whilst thankfully he isnt Mowbray, I would have thought the jury is still our on him for many.

Because......? Come on, Gallagher's no better than Vale. At least the younger player might have a bit of potential. Gallagher is just abysmal and will never get any better.

Based on what? We haven't had any criticism on that front from other Clubs in the past and you wouldn't have thought they would have been backwards in coming forward if it had happened. Just as Forest haven't been.

Thing is, the "farcial procedure" has never let us down on transfer deadline night before he rocked up.

Greg "Bullshit" Broughton.

So playing devil's advocate, do you think £900k in wages plus no doubt a hefty loan fee for O'Brien for 5 months would have been "managing it wisely" either?

I genuinely don't understand why anyone WOULDN'T be incensed by what's happened. For me personally it's an all time low in the tenure of the current ownership to rank alongside the aborted attempt to flog off the training ground on a false premise. It's the fact that once again we are so obviously being lied to and taken for absolute mugs. In this case it obviously has serious adverse consequences for 3rd parties as well not just for our own football Club.

I'll believe you, thousands wouldn't! Personally I find the constant singling out of said poster rather uncomfortable as I think he is extremely sincere in his views and love for the Club even if I don't agree with him a lot of the time.

Absolutely. 100% agree. If there was anything whatsoever to do with the deal that they were unsure about or hadn't come across before, then they should have checked with the EFL earlier in the day. Unless of course they didn't really want the deal to go through, but at the same time wanted to create the illusion they were doing something.

What if Rochdale went under because they were relying on that money for the young lad to tide them over until the end of the season? And what agent is going to want his player to come to the Club after this? Still, at least Greg has "put the recruitment department back to the state it was in before" according to several posters. Happy Days.

Nothing about the Club's version of events surrounding this sorry episode adds up. I got taken to task by m'learned friend Atko for suggesting the failures might have been deliberate but even if he had been directly ordered to sanction this deal by the owners I can't imagine any scenario in which Waggott would have been happy with authorising that kind of expenditure given the importance he has always recently placed on not breaking the wage structure and the implications it might have had for him personally in meeting any costs targets etc.

I presume you think I was being too harsh on GB given your post above. Care to reassess that view in light of the January window?

It's a good question. It's becoming increasingly difficult to argue against the proposition that they don't care. But if they don't, why do they bankroll us to such a massive extent instead of just cutting their losses and walking away?

I wouldn't get yourself too bogged down in technicalities - you're falling into exactly the trap the Club want you to of thinking this was an immensely complex deal that was practically impossible to pull off. At the end of the day this was a loan until the end of the season with an option to purchase for £10m if we got promoted. How difficult or unusual can that be? IF the EFL wanted to know what the script was if we were promoted then immediately relegated then I can't see why that would have been so difficult for Rovers to deal with either. You'd imagine that they'd have been through all that with O Brien's agent, it's difficult to imagine he would have allowed his client to join without knowing what sort of money he'd be on if we were promoted and what the financial implications would be for him if we were relegated.

Pretty much. It's amazing that some people can't see it after we went through exactly the same thing under Mowbray for years.

The guy is so obviously a complete and utter fraud. It's highly unlikely that spending a couple of million would send the Club over the edge and that's even if that couple of million were completely wasted. Of course with a competent recruitment team you'd actually hope that that couple of million would be well spent and be a good investment for the future rather than a millstone round the Club's neck.

He's saying exactly the opposite.

*BREAKING NEWS* Secret transcript obtained of meeting at Ewood following January transfer window: GB: (Rushes into SW's office looking flustered) "Steve, Steve- the fans are revolting! SW: I know, and they're not very happy either! The bloody lengths you have to go to to earn £300k p.a. these days. It's almost like they expect us to comply with the regulations or something. I might have to tempt Andy Cole out of retirement and go back to being an agent. GB: "I've never seen them like this before. They didn't even bat an eyelid when I paid £1.8m plus add ons for Sammy Szmodics and £10kp.w. for George Hirst on loan! SW: " Looks like they didn't buy our sob story about it being the EFL's fault for being pedantic. I knew I should never have asked the dinner lady to draft the official Club statement - she didn't strike the right note at all and couldn't even get it to read properly in plain English. GB: "Whatever shall we do Steve?" SW: "Hmmm......this isnt good, for once there's been such a commotion about it the owners might even notice. I'll tell you what, one of us will have to go in front of the cameras, look suitably apologetic and pretend to take the blame for it. Most of the supporters will believe it and it'll be next week's chip paper. I'll toss you for it." (Produces double headed coin) GB:"Tails" SW: Bad luck Greg. Off you go. Don't forget to mention the word "process" in every other sentence. If you mention it often enough it'll fool people into thinking we have an actual plan and know what we're doing. I'll also leak a few select details to Nixon. Won't make a blind bit of difference to err....the "appeal" of course (both chuckle heartily) but at least he can publish to make it look like we've been hard done by. Of course I won't tell him the full tale. GB: "Genius Steve! BTW how does this look?." (Undo's a few buttons in an attempt to look dishevelled and puts on distraught expression. SW: "Brilliant Greg! Oscar worthy! You should have been an actor. GB: "Maybe I should Steve. After all we've just seen I can't conduct transfer business! (Both laugh uproariously as Greg exits) The next day........ (GB's mobile rings) SW: "See, I told you it would work!"

Morning Paul. I'm glad you're happy with the situation and content that the Club have done all they can. However I'm afraid I have some really bad news for you. You can't just sign anyone whenever you want any more, they introduced something called "a transfer window" about twenty years ago now in 2002-3. As the name suggests it's called a "window" because at some point it shuts so that Clubs have a degree of certainty for large parts of the season and aren't looking over their shoulders worried that their best players are going to get poached twenty four hours a day, three hundred and sixty five days a year. As such you have to meet a deadline for your transfer business before the window shuts and it seems they even expect you to file your paperwork correctly as well! I know. Crazy eh? Who'd have ever thought it? Still there you go!