RevidgeBlue

No, by his own admission in that article it's partly because Mowbray is claiming he isn't prepared to sanction offering said players anything beyond a so called wage ceiling so as not to upset everyone else. I'm calling BS on that because again by his own admission they would have been prepared to completely ignore that in the case of Armstrong so the wage cap clearly isn't as inflexible as he is making out if they want to keep the player badly enough and it isn't the owners putting the block on it financially. Also I would wager the likes of Nyambe and Rothwell will be on an absolute fraction of the likes of Ayala, Gallagher and Dack so to assume that they would be after parity or something in excess of those players is nonsense imo. The only way in which I think you could say it was in any way the owners fault is by not sacking Waggott and Mowbray well before now. If you were Rothwell and 27 and potentially considering your last really big career move, would you really want to sign for a lame duck manager like Mowbray? Or if you were an outstanding talent like Nyambe and had been constantly shuttled in and out of the side by Mowbray behind inferior players, would you be busting a gut to re-sign for him either?

So where's this new contract for Lenihan that Waggott was apparently assuring everyone he was on the point of signing a couple of months ago? Surely he couldn't have been being economical with the truth?

Will you get it through your head, the contract situation is nothing whatsoever to do with the owners!

Mowbray can SAY what he likes about it now, if he had been sufficiently concerned about securing the futures of the Club's key players, as manager he would have sacrificed a few others and ensured it was sorted at least 12-18 months ago. Not just shed a few crocodile tears when it's too late.

Rothwell's not without one or two flaws but if he was absolutely perfect , he wouldn't be at Blackburn Rovers at this precise point in time. Any other manager would be saying something like "Joe has qualities that no other player at the Club can bring us therefore we're really keen to persuade him to commit his future to us". But no, he knows he's completely messed up the contract situation so it's a face/arse covering exercise "I never rated him that much anyway". Which may actually be true as he seems incapable of leaving him on the pitch for 90 mins whereas I think he'd leave Gallagher on if he was missing a limb.

Don't be fooled by the forked tongue comments of Mowbray and Waggott. They now seem to be insinuating that the contract situation is the owners' fault because there's a wage cap in place. I'm sure that's news to the likes of Ayala and Gallagher Mowbray essentially admitted the contract problem was of his own making because he didn't want to offer the players in question improved deals in the midst of a pandemic and potentially upset the rest of the squad. Well boo hoo, better players earn more than ones that aren't as good. It's the manager's job to look after the interests and future of the Club by securing it's major assets, not worrying about pandering to and upsetting the feelings of the less important players who if they didn't like it should have been told they were welcome to look elsewhere. I suspect Waggott and Mowbray have now been instructed to sort the contracts out to avoid tens of millions of pounds of talent walking out of the door for nothing but that the stable door has already firmly bolted and Waggott and Mowbray have damaged the relationships with said players beyond repair. As for your final paragraph, £10k p.w. (if that's correct) for Poveda to sit on the bench is hardly "nothing" or "next to nothing" is it? Hundreds of thousands of pounds more wasted that could have gone towards improved contract offers. And, the money was there to bring in Obafemi or Maja had they wanted to come or not failed a medical respectively.

The bloke (Mowbray) is a disgrace. Knows Rothwell won't sign for him therefore is trying to stick the boot in and make out Rothwell isn't that good anyway before he (Mowbray) departs the Club as well. If you were being offered the same or similar money here as elsewhere why would any player worth his salt want to sign for Mowbray? If he is allowed to see his contract out that decision will cost us dearly regardless of our final finishing position this season.

I'd go a step further and say it's been in decline since Mark Hughes left.

Hmm...... if he was granted a new deal then maybe. Perhaps the FFP mess Mowbray got us into ironically dictated a pragmatic approach of not incurring further expense by not paying him off unless it was absolutely necessary?

Glad you edited and put the last bit in, I was about to post as you seemingly feel Mowbray is doing such a fabulous job then by extension you must also be full of praise for the owners both for appointing him initially and keeping him in situ recently.

If any of them sign new deals maybe.

So according to you we pay the wages out of our own income and then have a separate £20m loss? Where do you think that £20m p.a. disappears to if not on players wages?

I thought someone posted a table on here without Venky's input which tended to suggest that once their £20 m p.a. contribution was taken into account we were actually about 4th in terms of overall finance. Happy to be proved wrong if that's incorrect.

Why wouldn't you?

Funny how when Brereton wasn't doing so well he was apparently a player foisted on an unwilling manager by the owners............ And we netted around £10m for Armstrong so if the others walk for nothing £50m is a bit optimistic to say the least! Gallagher good business? Reel 'em in Gav!

Have to say that whilst I may disagree with the views of those who come on and make out that everything is OK after a win they are perfectly entitled to have that point of view. I think in general the mods are far too quick to to complain about or remove posts they don't like in recent times.

It's unbelievable. I think some people assume players play for nothing. How much do people think Mulgrew and Evans were on? How much do people think Gallagher and Ayala are on?

By the end of the season roughly £100 m of the owners money on top of whatever income the Club has generated off it's own batt!

Given the backing he's had, I think it would have been impossible for virtually anyone else not to!

I'm afraid that's where we differ. Given the backing he's had I think he's done an appalling job overall.

Like I say I don't think either will happen unless we're in imminent danger of going down. Would that be my personal choice? No but there you are. By the end of the season Mowbray will most likely have burnt his way through roughly £100 m of Venky's money to not even finish in the play offs once. If people think that's an acceptable return, and seemingly some on here think it is, I despair.

As Mandy Rice Davies famously said "He would say that wouldn't he?"

Why, who else pre Mowbray and Waggott has walked for nothing? The only one I can think of was King and he was a bit of an odd case as he was absolute garbage until a few months before his contract was up.

Absolutely. Despite my hatred of Mowbray, I hope we get in the play offs, he takes us up, and proves me completely wrong. Do I think it will happen? Not a chance.

Absolute rubbish. Do you think Venky's fell out with Mulgrew and decided to pay him the thick end of £2m over 2 years to play for Fleetwood? Or decided to pay £5m for Sam Gallagher? Do you think Venky's chose to offer contract extensions to the likes of Evans Bennett and Graham? And temporary contract extensions to the likes of Smallwood and Hart. And a "we feel sorry for you" deal for Ben Gladwin? Do you think Venky's made a conscious decision to let the contracts of the likes of Nyambe, Rothwell, Lenihan, Kaminsky and Brereton run down potentially allowing them to walk away for nothing? Or do you think they trusted Mowbray and Waggott to manage the overall budget over the last few seasons properly and prioritise our better players accordingly? Do you believe the reason that no-one appears to be willing to re-sign is purely financial or at least partly to do with the fact that we currently have a lame duck management team that would never ever take us anywhere if allowed to remain in situ?