jim mk2

I can take a bad result like Saturday's on the chin because bad results can happen at any time to even the best teams but Mowbray has lost an awful lot of Brownie points by not strengthening the defence, and it is this failure more than anything that I think fans find most frustrating.

I'm sure I'm not alone in saying I get worse as I get older. Perhaps it's the advancing years and the realisation you don't have many football seasons left but I want Rovers back where they belong in the big time before I pop my clogs and results like yesterday's make you realise it's just not going to happen. Coupled with England's useless cricketers it would make anyone depressed.

I don't see this - in my view Mowbray is under no pressure at all from above. His remit is most likely to keep Rovers out of trouble and safe in the Championship - hence the conservative team selections and lack of risk taking. Let's face it, Mowbray got a nose-bleed when we reached the dizzy heights of 7th last season. Why should he put his nice sinecure at risk by raising expectations?

I'd bet my house on us getting nowhere near the target. There's only one likely scenario tomorrow - England steadily losing wickets all day and finally succumbing just before tea. Lyon is the dangerman.

Mowbray would do well at Westminster. Tell the proles what they want to hear, promise to spend fortunes to fix their grievances, and pledge a better future that they know they cannot possibly deliver. Sound familiar?

Of course it is. It's fans letting off steam and venting their feelings at events that are largely out of their control. This messageboard won't get Mowbray sacked but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be debated.

It ain't petering out, believe me. England face a grim struggle to save the match, and could well be skittled for 150. Thursday when we had them 122-8 seems a long time ago.

Mowbray has it too cushy at Rovers.They won't sack him (and he knows it) and he'll keep spinning the owners yarns about building for the future while in reality he is happy to keep us poddling along in mid-table while he boosts his pension fund for season after season. He's having the fans for fools.

Who's going to start a Mowbray out thread? I can't be the only one who's had enough of him.

New style - same old story What a load of rubbish. Mowbray out

Still cannot believe we started this match with same back 4 that ended last season Mowbray is hopeless

Bennett Lenihan Mulgrew Bell Management failure

Don't be surprised to see this Walton Bennett Lenihan Mulgrew Downing Armstrong Johnson Smallwood Evans Dack Graham

Good old England - not like them to throw away a good position. Bairstow doesn't have a cricket brain

That's us sunk then.

Well, he didn't look "quality" against Luton. Quite the opposite. His lack of dominance in the area made the Boro defence look jittery. Little wonder they conceded three.

Boro won't be near the top with that goalkeeper. Worse than Raya for misjudging crosses and lack of physical presence in the 6-yard box

Well played England. A day of proper Test cricket, hard fought and fascinating to watch. Special mention for Burns who would get 0/10 for style but 10/10 for grit, determination and concentration. England need a lead of 150 at least. They will not fancy chasing 200 or more on a pitch that will get increasingly difficult Stokes is England's best player and he asked to bat at No 6. Agree about Buttler at No 5 though - too high.

Baggies fans know their football - thousands of them. They didn't rate him.

Alot, obviously. The lad's already 21 and is so good he's yet to make an appearance for City.

Talked to a West Brom fan. The City lad is very, very raw - some potential but a liability at times and responsible for at least 10 goals Albion shipped last season. Albion fans did not want him back. Apart from signing a goalkeeper who may or may be better than the previous one, Mowbray has done nothing to address our defensive problems. And the season starts this weekend.

England are going to have to find a way of getting Smith out. The rest of their batting line-up won't fail every time and unless England can work Smith out we are going to be chasing some very big scores.

Sorry but just don't see this. Nuttall looked out of his depth in the Championship when I saw him last season, and doesn't seem to have improved in his time at Ewood.

Smith finally out. The total of 284 is far too high in those conditions. England I would say have thrown this Test away and could well lose from this point. Hope I'm wrong.

Psychologically, we could have had them on the floor at about 150 all out. Now they're heading for 270 plus and a very decent score on a not very good pitch. England, after a great start, have as usual made it very difficult for themselves. And I have no confidence whatsover in our batters making 250.