Class player. Part of the great Leeds team.

Hear, hear.

I wouldn't spend £3m on Armstrong or even half that. He'll probably make a good career for himself in League One but I don't think her has the game to play at a higher level.

Maddison wears gloves in cold weather.... Avoid.

Dreadful Rovers kit, one of the worst I have seen, and not a good omen to what could be a difficult season. Note to the club / owners / PR dept: Rovers play in royal blue, not sky blue.

Fitness is a basic requirement of any professional footballer. Some people have problems controlling their weight but that's no excuse when diet and conditioning is so well understood these days. If Caddis has come back for pre-season training out of condition and overweight he is not fit (literally) to do his job. He should be fined.

And there's the rub. We've become flat track bullies who beat low-rated opposition but always come up short against the best teams. We lost to Belgium twice in Russia. Until we start to beat the likes of Spain, Belgium and Croatia the best we can ever hope for is quarter-finals. We need a creative central midfielder to play alongside Henderson. Shelvey's just about the only England-qualified player in the Premier League at the moment who could do the job.

Very strong language there Simon. Are you related to Jacob Rees-Mogg?

........but he still looked a good player, and the potential to get better, was obvious, if we'd had a manager able to exploit it and a more ambitious club. Still didn't make any sense when fans were glad to see him leave. He was always destined for the top.

"Average". Thanks for proving the point I was trying to make.

Fantastic scenes of celebration in Paris and across the whole of France. 1966 was the same and there was a chance until last week that it could happen again. Have to say I'm very envious.

Don't recall him "downing tools" but can't blame him with Kean in charge. "Fans" who thought he was a poor player and we could do better (and there were quite a number) don't know football and aren't fans.

So France have now won two World Cups, and been in the final 3 times. They have also won the Euros twice. England have won the WC once, and never made it to another final. For most of my life, France was always regarded as a bit of a joke as football nation, yet their record proves they are so much better than us Germany and Italy have also won the WC and Euros multiple times. We're supposed to be big football country but it just highlights how pathetic England are - and that includes in this tournament.

An enjoyable World Cup, similar to Italia 1990 Well done to Russia. 1970 still the best for the quality of the football, even though it was agony for England.

Realistic.

I can.

So you didn't spot or appreciate his talent when he was here

The "world class" Harry Kane Not

Former Rover on the pitch in the World Cup final......................a player some "fans" on here were glad to say goodbye to.

It gets worse really. Croatia has a population of 4m, fewer than the number of people in Lancashire, not 8m as previously stated. It's the smallest country to reach the WC Final. And we're patting ourselves on the back for getting to the semis.

Pretty much....though Southgate didn't have the talent at his disposal to change it. Comes to the same old problem ..... not enough top-quality players.

Kane has worked hard outside the box but has been poor otherwise - he had 2 chances tonight which he fluffed, was beaten in the air more often than not and was dominated physically by Lovren. A long way from being "world class".

For once, you're right. Mediocre team, albeit a well managed one, hit its ceiling.

Nothing worse than that debacle. We were 2-0 up. Still not got over it, 48 years on. Croatia were very good. Country of 8m people has produced a very fine team and a clever manager who outwitted Southgate. England had an easy path to the final and they couldn't take it. 52 years on from a final, 28 years since the last WC semi. We're supposed to be a big football country. It's pathetic really

Nonsense. We were beaten by a far superior side.