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It ain't petering out, believe me. England face a grim struggle to save the match, and could well be skittled for 150. Thursday when we had them 122-8 seems a long time ago.

Mowbray has it too cushy at Rovers.They won't sack him (and he knows it) and he'll keep spinning the owners yarns about building for the future while in reality he is happy to keep us poddling along in mid-table while he boosts his pension fund for season after season. He's having the fans for fools.

Who's going to start a Mowbray out thread? I can't be the only one who's had enough of him.

New style - same old story What a load of rubbish. Mowbray out

Still cannot believe we started this match with same back 4 that ended last season Mowbray is hopeless

Bennett Lenihan Mulgrew Bell Management failure

Don't be surprised to see this Walton Bennett Lenihan Mulgrew Downing Armstrong Johnson Smallwood Evans Dack Graham

Good old England - not like them to throw away a good position. Bairstow doesn't have a cricket brain

That's us sunk then.

Well, he didn't look "quality" against Luton. Quite the opposite. His lack of dominance in the area made the Boro defence look jittery. Little wonder they conceded three.

Boro won't be near the top with that goalkeeper. Worse than Raya for misjudging crosses and lack of physical presence in the 6-yard box

Well played England. A day of proper Test cricket, hard fought and fascinating to watch. Special mention for Burns who would get 0/10 for style but 10/10 for grit, determination and concentration. England need a lead of 150 at least. They will not fancy chasing 200 or more on a pitch that will get increasingly difficult Stokes is England's best player and he asked to bat at No 6. Agree about Buttler at No 5 though - too high.

Baggies fans know their football - thousands of them. They didn't rate him.

Alot, obviously. The lad's already 21 and is so good he's yet to make an appearance for City.

Talked to a West Brom fan. The City lad is very, very raw - some potential but a liability at times and responsible for at least 10 goals Albion shipped last season. Albion fans did not want him back. Apart from signing a goalkeeper who may or may be better than the previous one, Mowbray has done nothing to address our defensive problems. And the season starts this weekend.

England are going to have to find a way of getting Smith out. The rest of their batting line-up won't fail every time and unless England can work Smith out we are going to be chasing some very big scores.

Sorry but just don't see this. Nuttall looked out of his depth in the Championship when I saw him last season, and doesn't seem to have improved in his time at Ewood.

Smith finally out. The total of 284 is far too high in those conditions. England I would say have thrown this Test away and could well lose from this point. Hope I'm wrong.

Psychologically, we could have had them on the floor at about 150 all out. Now they're heading for 270 plus and a very decent score on a not very good pitch. England, after a great start, have as usual made it very difficult for themselves. And I have no confidence whatsover in our batters making 250.

He's right though. We had them 122-8; they've now more than doubled that score. We've let them off the hook and possibly a winning position.

In 1975?

Mike Hickman - straight in the team and scored hat trick in 5-2 win over Plymouth IIRC. Check. He scored 2. Clearly not ready to play

Nope. But his non-selection says alot.

Irrelevant. The best new signings go straight in - because they're very good players. Our new boy clearly isn't in that category.

New signings normally go straight into teams because they're better than you've already got. This new lad clearly isn't better - so fans are entitled to ask why we signed him.