I cannot understand this faith in Sigurdsson just because he scored a few goals last season. I thought he was awful with the heart the size of a pea and looked like he just did not fancy the rough and tumble of the Championship. If we're depending on him to take over the Szmodics mantle we're going to be in serious trouble (not that we aren't already)

Why didn't City move for him 6 months ago? They've made some strange decisions - letting Palmer go particularly doesn't make sense.

Look at some of the Spain players Williams plays for Athletic Bilbao, 5th in La Liga; match winner Oyarzabal and Le Normand play for Real Sociedad, 6th in La Liga; Dani Olmo, one of their best players this tournament, plays for RB Leipzig, Cucurella had modest season at Chelsea, Laporte plays for Al Nassr, Alvaro Morata is a decent forward, but nothing special I don't accept these players as individuals are any better than England's in their position but you have to say they were brilliantly coached and, unlike England, played as a team. Southgate's England looked like a bunch of players who hardly knew each other. They were badly managed in this tournament I'll repeat - foreign coaches, especially Spanish ones at present, understand the game better than English managers and have done for decades.

Ask most of the England fans trudging home bitterly disappointed if they wanted Southgate to carry on and I suspect you'd get a resounding No. He's not popular with the majority and Southgate knows it; the FA will try to persuade him to stay I'm sure but I think he wants out. He's had enough. To Southgate's credit he's made England respectable and competitive again after years in the doldrums but he's been the luckiest manager ever with groups and draws. As usual, every time we play a really good side we lose. Spain beat France, Germany, Italy and Croatia on the way to the final. Would England have beaten any of those? Best comment I've seen on Kane is that "he looks like he's been towing a caravan all tournament".

Yet Spain played with 2 wingers - a very old fashioned way of playing and something you don’t see often these days. They also play at a higher pace than us. By biggest criticism of England this tournament is that we were too slow and laboured and therefore were easy to defend against.

You mean he’s won nothing …., in contrast to Sir Alf

Nonsense. You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about. Southgate is a serial failure

This is a ludicrous post Sir Alf won the World Cup

He's already on it after last Thursday A German in charge of the England team would be wonderful and send a good message to our European friends. But how would the the befuddled minds of some England fans cope?

If England win on Sunday he might consider staying on. If England lose he’ll probably depart - which I think he wants to do anyway. I get the impression he’s had enough.

England don't pay for players IIRC

Overall, the Dutch record is superior to ours. The reason you appear to be confused is because your football knowledge unfortunately is limited to your lifetime - as you acknowledged. If you can be bothered to look there's a whole swathe of experts and analysts who say the penalty should not have been given, even in this era of virtually contactless football.

Can't argue with that. Now he has to win one

This arose because you were dissing the Dutch and their achievements (because they weren't in your lifetime) when they are clearly a significant football nation with a long history of success in tournament football. At 37 you ought to have known better.

Never a penalty for me - the tabloids would be going berserk this morning if that has been given against England England look so much better balanced with Shaw at left back - hard on Trippier but I wouldn't start the final with him England were well on top in the first half and should have been ahead at half time such was their dominance. Koeman shifted his players around and it was much more difficult for England in the second half The problem for England in the final is Spain have more players who can turn a game with a piece of individual brilliance - something even the best coaches cannot plan for

Since their 1970s World Cup heyday, the Dutch have reached one final; a third place; a fourth place, and 2 quarter-finals. Since winning the Euros in 1988, they've appeared in 3 semi-finals including last night and 2 quarter-finals. Compare and contrast to our dismal record. Football didn't start with the advent of the Premier League and the past is relevant. The Dutch are a great and successful footballing nation. "Youth" is wasted on the young - especially callow youth.

“Smart” answers don’t compensate for ignorance. The Dutch national team of the 1970s containing the likes of Cryuff and other brilliant players was one of the greatest teams to have graced the game.

They’ve been in 3 World Cup finals. Their international record is far superior to ours

He’s not won anything!

I don’t think he’ll change anything. Shaw for Trippier maybe.

Southgate changed it too late again for me. The right subs but England looked dead on their feet and they should have been on 20 minutes earlier. Brilliant strike from Watkins. I’d start him in the final

England have become like the old West Germany and Germany teams in knowing how to muddle through tournaments and getting the needed results without playing particularly well. I always admired them for doing that and now England are the same - although we haven’t yet translated it into tournament wins like the Germans did. Time to deliver Mr Southgate

Turkey - Holland match so much better spectacle than any of England’s games

Undeserved equaliser

Absolute rubbish England. We’ve stunk this tournament out