Id be amazed if Fleck was on near £20k, he will have been paid up to leave Sheff Utd. Either way, whatever we spent on a guy with a plate in his leg was a waste.

Hes done nothing to suggest that he is the man to take us forward. Will it be 2 wins in 18 if he fails to win at the weekend?

I cant believe that anyone genuinely looks back at loaning out our captain and thinks yep, that was a logical move.

Everything seems immaterial as opposed to new owners. But imagine what a squad fit around what Eustace wants would look like. We need to accept that Eustace has not shown anything to suggest success will come with him at the helm and make a change. Wont happen as the owners dont care and also wont pay him off.

Or more likely lose but scrape over the line due to the other results.

Why would Eustace suddenly become a different character and become really positive and attacking? Itll be a back 5, sit in job trying to grind out a nil nil. Leicester will win but other results will almost certainly get us over the line.

He definitely would not have hindered us.

You can pick flaws in the managers in both seasons, Mowbray's use of Giles, Tomasson picking Morton over Wharton/playing Mola at Burnley. Not really relevant to the point I was making. Both Januarys, minimal money spent, no autonomy to trade, seasons petered out.

Do all the other Championship fans praise their owners for offsetting the losses they make which they have to do to avoid the club going into administration? Nothing they have done suggests theyve ever cared about the quality of the squad.

Both Mowbray and Tomasson did not only good jobs here, but totally different jobs here. Mowbray inherited a much worse situation, so although he had more funds, that was in the earlier years when the squad he inherited had been run down and stacked with crap and freebies. Ultimately like with Tomasson, when we got in a position of strength, he was really undermined by our shoddy owners.

Exactly, its not support to fund any sort of ambition. Its merely offsetting the losses they make which they have to do because its their business. All non parachute payment Championship club owners have to offset losses. Ours are worse because of how poorly we are run.

His record is crap, 100%. But him bigging up the players in the press is nothing to criticise, he has to say that.

Have you been following since Venkys took over? Support us AGAIN?

Hes a good Championship midfielder, he proved that over a period of time for us in teams that were in the top half. He isn't a stand out one although anyone had their work cut out getting into a team that has consistently been fighting at the top and is going to get automatic promotion, with their 2 midfielders being consistently excellent all season. Hes also a leader which is something we sorely lack. We have a very small number of Championship quality players so giving one up who also had that leadership was utterly stupid. If he comes back, he would play a regular role next season. This season he was being asked to do things he isn't comfortable doing ie playing much further up in a team that tried to play a certain way around one special talent that we then sold. Im not sure there is a massive gulf in quality between him and Tronstad, they were not being asked to do the same job when they played but Travis is also very capable at being a more destructive player like Tronstad is, who himself is limited on the ball. The 2 might work well together as im not convinced that JRC is best suited in a midfield 2.

All would want wages above our uncompetitive pay structure.

Why would they be willing to rip up their contract and give up years worth of wages?

He did not purposely get sent off as a tactical move.

Mowbray might not even be well enough to continue as Birmingham manager but it seems like just assuming 2 managers will go for their former players (fuelled by Nixon nonsense) to say Ruddy comes here and Pears goes there. Ruddy might not be as bad as Pears but hes well past his best.

The problem is Venkys. Hes just an ugly symptom. Obviously im not saying this is the case as it obviously is not, but he would argue he laid foundations at those clubs...

A desperate attempt to make a shit record slightly less shit.

Tomasson solely at fault for the shit signing. He's gone and Broughton is still here, so it must have been down to the person that has gone. (Well, mainly down to Venkys and their cuts but you get the point)

Its all geting very desperate. Trying to include a win he wasnt even officially in charge of having not been appointed 24 ours prior, just because he had a meeting with Johnson and Lowe and he came down after half time. Stat padding because we all know his results have been terrible. Also echoing Eustace's negative "what if we lose" mentality to justify keeping 5 defenders on against an exhausted 10 men with the prize of survival on offer if we won.

It is incomprehensible that if the manager/coaches explained why we didnt move from a back 5, that the logic used could have been a mistake. We didnt win a game that was there for us for half an hour, so evidence suggested that their logic was flawed and they made the wrong call.

The owners have consistently left employees in the dark as to budgets until the very last minute regardless of which employees are at the club at that time, and have allowed the club across all aspects to get into such a terrible state. Pointless even conversing with a buffoon middleman who clearly has very little power and even less of a clue. The issue is in India and he is just a grubby symptom of it all.

I meant that he is a number 10/attacking midfielder or had played there when I saw him for Coventry. Either way, point is that he even as one of the more involved loanees has still only started two games and has had very little impact. Clubs wont be looking at us as keen to lend us their players if they base it on this season.