Whats caused the second 180 spin on Waggott? From calling him a Maggot, to being in his office every week, now you want rid of him. Why, and do you feel at all regretful that you were in any way tricked by his words?

Still our top scorer lets not forget, but a lot less effective compared to last season and Tomasson has not used him as effective. An absolute joke of a decision to keep him, not learn our lessons and that will cost us short and long term. Developing assets? Having a laugh.

I just dont get this huge disparity between last season and this, to me they are so similar. Both seasons in which we maintained top 6 places for the majority of the season only to stumble badly in the last few months. This season, a run of 7 without a win when it matters, all the usual hard luck stories, late goals, missed penalties, whatever, and just a realisation that we aren't up to it. Big if but if we draw and win, we will finish on the same points with not far off the same squad, with both seasons seeing younger than average sides each week. All in all, I'd say the job Tomasson has done this season and Mowbray last season are both above average considering how shoddily the club is run above them. And of course Tomasson should stay and I get that from a stronger initial position mainly down to Mowbray, he is new to the job and has not outstayed his welcome unlike his predecessor. But there isn't the disparity between the 2 seasons. Will things change next season? Probably not. Minimal money and already an expectation of even more of a reliance on young players replacing any experience we have. And even if we are in a promising position, will anyone have any faith that we can see it through?

It shows what Venkys have done to us and that is as sad as anything. Proud that we gave Burnley a game. Lost, but gave them an even game. At home, 6 losses in a row to them, no wins in 7 seeing us replicate last year, our rivals winning a title on our ground 30 points in front of us. Imagine saying that before they turned up.

One word. Venkys.

Not sure that they are transformative, and they both cost over a million and Tomasson has said its loans and frees this summer.

Will we bring that transformative quality in with no money and generally shoddy running of the club?

Apart from when they did.

He bought 3 for 15m to be fair. One nearly recouped that on his own. We could have made a profit on another if we were run properly but even then, he scored 20 odd last season but hasnt been used the same this. Gallagher I will give you.

I cant have a strong feeling of pride when Burnley have just done the double over us, won the title at Ewood and are 30 points ahead. I take nothing from battling hard especially when we never ever looked like scoring.

Fail to win 7 games in a row on the home stretch as long as you do a good presser.

That identity has really helped us collapse when it matters again.

The Venkys reign manages to stoop to new lows. Talk about pride and progression. We have just allowed Burnley to do the double over us, go 30 points ahead and win the league at our ground. We have failed to win in the last 7 games at the business end of the season, slipping right down and almost certainly into another play off less season. Another summer of dumbing down and just filling gaps with kids will apparently lead to further progression though. Tomasson has overseen a terrible run when it matters which is being viewed totally differently to when Mowbray did it and he probably will get less points over a season.

It doesnt help us to fill the ground that the limited away allowance has led to us being cautious selling in the home ends so some Rovers fans will struggle to be able to go I suspect.

Pears is not in outstanding form, just doing ok. Was Tomasson going to drop him? Why did he not drop him even when he was carrying an injury?

Probably someone a bit more relevant rather than someone who did a decent job about 10-15 years ago.

When he was injured! And it was one game against a half season of general excellence. Kaminski is better, does Pears "deserve" dropping? Perhaps not, I just prefer to play our best players.

Hodgson was Palace's manager not long ago, totally incomparable. If you was an owner, your sole criteria would be "does he know the club?"

Exactly, he has done exactly what you want from a stand in, come in and cover without any significant errors and proven himself as a competent stand in. Kaminski is a far better keeper, even this season the recency bias has kicked in and many have forgotten that he was outstanding and kept us in games right until the month before injury, at which point he was carrying that injury. Pears has looked edgier lately and there is at least once in each game where there is indecision between him and the defence, probably a contributing factor to us suddenly starting to concede goals again. Expectations have been stripped down, if we let by far our best keeper go, then have the number 2 as number 1 and promote a kid as back up, many won't bat an eyelid. Modern day Blackburn Rovers.

Absolute lunatics then. McCoist presumably a mate.

Which people?! Jamie Redknapp? Frank Lampard? Sandra Redknapp? Presumably only family members would suggest such nonsense.

Form after 3 months of not playing? The question was who would you rate higher in general to start a fresh season after a spell of no games. No, they probably wont be both here, we will probably sell one and cut back as tend to do with a kid with no senior football on the bench. I just hope Kaminski starts the season in net. He is the better keeper, a safer presence and prior to his wobbles carrying an injury before he broke down, he had kept us in so many games this season.

Even if you take the view that Pears has not done anything to warrant being dropped, say we have both next season, who is better to start a fresh season as number 1?

Didnt he only play the last 10 minutes v Hartlepool, once we were 4 up?

So he purposely didnt get into the play offs just to coast, rather than it being down to not quite being up to it?