Based on?

If we had a play off semi final against a team with Amarii Bell in it and were fearful, then something has gone wrong.

Any news on the latest minutes @only2garners

How do you know that they didnt enjoy it?

Or unless Venkys are willing to increase the budget to keep him. Either or.

Interesting to see the stat that he has started in 26 of 27 games that he has been fit for. Hardly the shoddy treatment from Mowbray that many like to point out.

Zeefuik has to prove that he is capable first to warrant a deal going into next season. His chance is now with Nyambe out. I am not happy with so many key players soon to be out of contract but I am not convinced that Mowbray or Waggott have much say in the matter.

I don't get this backwards logic of directly comparing Nyambe's potential wage to that of our main earners. Circumstance dictates wages im sure as much as anything, including age and where a player has come from. For Gallagher or Kaminski to be on a similar but extended deal would not cause any noticeable rise on the current wage bill, to put Nyambe on par with those 2 will, hence why they are totally different situations. The fact that we have offered as much as we can suggests that we need the owners to be more flexible in how much they are willing to spend to protect an asset.

As a team 4th in the league fighting for promotion with 12 games to go, we cannot be resting Travis to try and avoid him getting out of a yellow card. There would still be 2 games after the Fulham game plus there is no reason why we shouldn't be going to Fulham, as hard as that game will be aiming to bring a result back, we need to get out of this mindset that any game is a free hit. Travis has really developed since Mowbray gave him a chance when we all expected Smallwood to be reinstated, and he has this season become more mature as a defensive midfielder.

He will be on much less than a player that signed from a PL club as an older player, it goes without saying. Its not realistic to expect a player to have his wage multiplied so much having last signed as a squad player breaking through to match presumably one of our highest earners. Crass management my arse. He will leave because he will fancy his chances of getting more money elsewhere.

Waggott implied that for all 3 players out of contract, we had offered as much as was permitted in our budget from the owners. Surely with Nyambe having last signed when he wasnt an established regular as he is now, he will (justifiably) be demanding a noticeable increase being in a much stronger negotiating position, which would cause our wage bill to go up. Gallagher claimed to have taken a pay cut to come here but youd still imagine he is up there with our highest earners, same with Kaminski as a senior player, so youd think that their wages wont have jumped noticeably with an extension if it all therefore the wage structure remains unchanged.

It has been said in the fans forun that we have offered as much as we can according to the budget so how is it down to the management team? You assumed a fee, a wage and that we will definitely sign him to make that point.

No game for a promotion challenger is a free hit. A hard game but not a free hit.

He isnt in a competitive environment and wont be as long as he is playing with and against kids.

I might be wrong but were 2 of Lenihans not part of a red therefore do not count?

Apologies. I dont have a complete knowledge of managers across the world therefore I shouldnt have suggested not even that Lampard is a poor choice, which i didnt say, but that I remain unconvinced on how you can be so certain of Lampard's suitabiity for the Everton job following 2 very average managerial jobs. To be fair, I dont have an Everton supporting friend with an expert opinion on the work of Vitor Pereira so my opinion wouldnt be as valid anyway.

I didn't say that he did. I just think that without having that knowledge, that I don't feel in a position to recommend anyone. I am sure that either from England or abroad, that there are better managers with better CV's available somewhere, compared to Lampard and his average CV. I don't think that they will go down either way.

I don't know whether he will be a success or a failure. A managers playing career does not mean that he will be any more suitable as a manager, so I dismiss that point for one. If questioning from a neutral position a manager with 2 average jobs on his CV is me having something "against Lampard" then deary me. I don't have the depth of knowledge regarding mangers especially across Europe to be in a position to suggest anyone else, I am judging solely on Lampard that I am unconvinced that he warranted such a job based on his CV. I never said that anyone isn't playing for him. He is a big name (as a player) who has just joined so I have no doubt that they are trying their hardest. Ultimately that means diddly squad (nor does what he says in interviews after defeats) until he starts picking up enough points.

You say understands the Prem, now this is the main thing that I dispute for a few reasons: - Is the Premier League a totally different concept to management in other leagues? - Does this definition of an "understanding" include his playing career or just his management career? If it is just management, one and a half years in the Premier League wouldn't make him stand out as an experienced manager who "understands" the league. If it includes him playing in the league 10-20 years ago, what relevance does that have to his management In my book, the job he did at Chelsea was ok, unremarkable, certainly not "very good." This was on the back of getting the job purely on his playing career following an average spell managing Derby. I am not saying that he is going to be a failure or indeed a success at Everton. I just can't fathom why you seem so sure that he is such a good appointment as the "right fit." I wonder if you have followed the media narrative that is based on him being an excellent player in his day and seemingly also a nice enough bloke who has other older family members that have made names for themselves on the media circuit. His opening 4 league games have led to 3 losses and 1 win which is an unremarkable start. He is a new manager, I am sure that they are "playing for him" but that becomes a subjective irrelevance until it results in them picking up points.

Good that 2 other sets of teams around us are playing each other. Can't look past Huddersfield and QPR wins nor can I see us picking up anything away at Fulham. The pressure will be on the 3 consecutive home games, hopefully with Dack back in the squad by then.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/30778/12529778/dele-alli-everton-sign-spurs-midfielder-permanently-in-a-deal-that-could-cost-40m#:~:text=Get Sky Sports-,Dele Alli%3A Everton sign Spurs midfielder permanently in a,that could cost £40m&text=Dele Alli has joined Everton permanently from Tottenham on Deadline,stalling career at Goodison Park. An incentivised deal rising to 40m if certain criteria is met. I don't get why Lampard is the "right fit" based on anything in particular, nor do I have any idea how you can be sure that he will not become a "waste of money" himself.

Playing with and against kids in an uncompetitive environment is a means to an end for a player like Dack, or indeed any senior player. As long as he is getting in minutes without getting injured, that is all that matters. Hopefully he will be back in the squad either at Fulham or for the 3 home games that follow, as we need his ability to sniff out chances and put them away even if it is in cameos initially.

Norwich are gone, nowhere near enough quality and Watford are battling uphill really despite a credible draw yesterday and the appointment of Hodgson who has kept teams up before. Assuming there is one place left, I can see Burnley potentially and annoyingly surviving, I think they have the best manager of all the teams and with Weghorst joining Cornet, they now have goals in their team. Everton could be in big danger. Lampard was a strange appointment with 2 average jobs on his CV (but a big name as a player and a reputation as a media darling) and he was very lucky to get a big transfer budget to be able to demand that Dele Alli was brought in. He seems a busted flush and a waste of money and cant even get in the team. Leeds are also in trouble and I can see Brentford getting really dragged into it. Newcastle will be fine.

I suspect it wouldn't be as high as you would think as for much of our winning run, Brereton and Khadra were the 2 forwards, with Buckley as the false 9.

It turned out to be good logic. Suppose Johnson was the natural replacement for Rothwell and was outstanding. I havent seen much if any criticism of him, what has been said? Very good today, does need to provide more in terms of goals/assists though but so much energy.