Any effort to try and change things doesn't get the time of day, nothing changes and this conversation feels like banging my head against a wall, similar to if anyone was to (unsuccessfully) attempt to ask Waggott to change something. I presume that most peoples bosses aren't as tone deaf as Waggott so pointless comparison. Whether its a big issue like expensive season tickets and piss poor attendances (that you somehow think are decent), issues that affect matchdays like woeful services on the concourses (Waggott has heard at fans forum about potential solutions like pre pouring pints and opening the bottle bars, neither of which he has done) or really trivial issues like goal music, aside from having a little moan on here, we just have to accept it.

What does that even mean? Obviously we will play like JDT wants us to. That doesn't necessarily make it the most effective way. Your quoted sentence is not a counter argument. For what its worth, I also don't think that we are well suited to playing it out from the back, our team is technically limited.

Waste of time and energy when our CEO is an idiot and our owners couldn't give 2 shits. Anyway, the initial point was that you implying that people shouldn't complain on a messageboard unless they have spoken to the club first is a load of rubbish. Even points made to the club are just ignored.

No it hasnt, my point is that these things have been communicated to the club more than once, especially ticket prices, and the club has done nothing about it.

Why would it be picked over Liverpool v Wolves, watching that great fixture twice a season isn't enough! (I agree that it should be)

I don't see how failing to contact the club removes the right to be able to vent on a messageboard. I have asked the fans forum members on here numerous times to bring up various issues, a big source of irritation is the pathetic service on offer in the concourses. The terrible pricing strategies have also been mentioned in those meetings I read the minutes every time. Has anything changed? No. The issue is not a lack of communication to the club, it is the club itself.

4-0. Dack scored early in the second half.

Excellent use by the referee of VAR in the Uruguay game for that penalty, having missed the earlier stamp.

Absolutely no consideration again from Sky, 5 out of 6 games is a joke. I doubt many neutrals would bother with Rotherham v Rovers either.

Out of interest, have the club either via email or through your meeting changed anything at your request?

Going back to the initial point, and putting aside any anti-Scot agendas, it is easy to see (for most) why someone would move from QPR to Rangers.

Living in fantasy world.

Hmm... I dont get why on an absolutely exhilarating night of drama, that you instantly compare to England who are on the opposite side of the draw.

Was never a penalty either way.

Coincidence or part of some sort of England hatred within the officials?

Are we one of the "big" countries that get favourable decisions (thinking back to Sterling diving for the penalty that took us to the Euro final) or is it part of the agenda against us?

He probably would if they retired! I don't get this big agenda that everyone is against England or giving them credit, its nonsensical.

Your opinion on Southgate seems to go from one extreme to another with each passing hour! I very much doubt as strong as the reputation Allardyce unfairly has is that we would have a team full of retired players.

7pm on the Saturday of the 10th following the Preston game, I think!

I think Japan in a recent tournament also went through via fair play. It is a difficult one I guess, there are loads of initial deciding factors when points are level and the chances of goal difference, goals scored and head to head all being the same are very low. You cant fit in another game but essentially it feels as if Poland being so ambtionless has edged them through. It was a great night of entertainment.

You have purposely sidetracked from your original nonsense justifying the ticket prices based on sales numbers which you think are decent but are clearly piss poor.

Goal music is not that big of a deal, just something id rather they removed. Wouldnt take a day off work just to ask Waggott about it believe it or not.

I am sure you can press the red button for alternative commentary, might be wrong.

Because that is where the money is.

VAR hasn't given the penalty, merely a recommendation to check his decision and the technology to be able to do so. The referee as an individual is to blame. Plus it is just like saying that a general refereeing mistake could be a major issue, as it has been.